NREMT-P for 18D?

ender18d · 11-29-2005, 03:20

I keep hearing rumblings that the schoolhouse may get back the ability to grant NREMT-P certification to 18D's (just read it again in the other paramedic thread in this forum)... Does anyone on here have any first-hand knowledge of this? If this rumor is true, how would this affect guys who have already gone through the course but did not have the chance to get NREMT-P certified? Would we be grandfathered in and given the chance to test?

Thanks in advance!

Gordon · 12-03-2005, 02:37

I am currently in the course now. When we first arrived we were told that anyone past or present who is 18D certified will be given the equivilant associates degree, sometime within this comming year, in an unspecified area... Come next monday I can have the details on what that is, and also a direct answer to your question about emt-p.

ender18d · 12-03-2005, 02:43

Thanks for the help! I'll look forward to finding out more.

-Ender

**Eagle5US** · 12-03-2005, 11:15

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Originally Posted by Gordon

I am currently in the course now. When we first arrived we were told that anyone past or present who is 18D certified will be given the equivilant associates degree, sometime within this comming year, in an unspecified area... Come next monday I can have the details on what that is, and also a direct answer to your question about emt-p.

Associates degree??? In what? "Special Operations Medicine?" From what accredited college?
Please do shed the light.
I would find this most interesting...

Eagle

Gordon · 12-06-2005, 16:21

I had the oprotunity to talk to Col. Olivito today, who is basicly the big cheese when it comes to the socm portion of the course. As it stands right now EMT-P is currently not being sponsered by the school. But the school house is expecting promising results sometime next year to be allowed to give that certification out. (not set in stone)

Concerning the college education. Tentativly next year you can be awarded an associates in an undetermined medical feild, what it will be is still under negotiation (Some kind of medical technologies degree as the rumor goes.... Not sure what that would actually entail) Cambell University is who the school house is working the issue through.

What the schoolhouse is actually trying to do, in addition, is get certified as a junior college, which leads me to beilve that we will actually be the ones to award the degree, worth 64 credit hours. Also stated though was that when you have completed the course you can attend classes at Cambell University to work towards your bachlors. This basicly sums up everything he told me, but i also have a contact number for the man in charge of some of the programs run through the school that i will send you via pm. Any other 18D who are interested i would be more then happy to send you as well. I just hope the guy doesn't get a train load of phone calls...

Also don't get the impression that the college credits are set in stone eaither. But I was reasured that it will be more likly then not.

D9 (RIP) · 12-13-2005, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Eagle5US

Associates degree??? In what?

"Allied Health," is what our class was told.

Koob · 12-13-2005, 19:02

Hey D9, I'll try and catchup with you about this as we haven't been told anything and I would like to know, as would a few class mates I'm sure.

**Eagle5US** · 12-13-2005, 19:11

I would consider this strictly as RUMOR until someone graduates and has it in hand.

Eagle

Guy · 05-10-2006, 12:33

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Originally Posted by Gordon

I am currently in the course now. When we first arrived we were told that anyone past or present who is 18D certified will be given the equivilant associates degree, sometime within this comming year, in an unspecified area... Come next monday I can have the details on what that is, and also a direct answer to your question about emt-p.

I'm in the process of trying to get into the University of California. I'm currently attending a community college and have an advisor from Berkeley...

I was only awarded a total of 15 credit hours, for all the training I attended while in the military.

Hopefully this info helps some you guys out.

Take care.

R71 · 06-08-2006, 21:13

New to the forum but wanted to share my expierience as far as the NREMT-P thing is. I was in Phase III from 2004 to 05 and we recieved the SOCOM card but told us they were working on getting back whatever it was they needed for us to able to take the NREMT-P exam in the soon future along with the associates degree. Long story short, when I graduated the course I filled out the application had to get it filled out at the schoolhouse along with signatures from the EMS director and the Medical Director, sent it in with my money and it got sent back with a letter saying our course was not approved and therefore I could not take the exam! I called NR and they told me to call AMEDD. I called AMEDD down in Ft. Sam in TX and talked to the head of the EMS certification dept. who empathized with our situation and has had numerous calls about this topic but said their hands were tied and that suggestions have been made to the schoolhouse to get them back up to par to be able to test the NREMT-P. He told me I needed to call the EMS dept. of USSOCOM in FL and talk to them to see if this topic is being looked at or changed, which I did but the person I needed to talk to was not in at the time (CPT Briggs). The phone number is on the back of the SOCOM paramedic cards! I also read an interesting article on the internet from the SOCOM medical director just recently that stated they are going away from the National Registry standard and more towards the Combat Medicine Approach, which makes me think they will probably not go back which makes since as we need the medical training on what we will expierience in war more than civilian side of medicine and its protocols. But it does seem a shame that when a 18D gets out of active duty whenever they choose, or have to, that even though they went to an CoAEMSP approved Paramedic course, they will only be able to work as an EMT-B unless they go through a whole new program. So much for making a long story short, sorry! Just wanted to shed some light on the Picture that it has not happened as of yet!

NousDefionsDoc · 06-08-2006, 21:23

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Originally Posted by R71

New to the forum but wanted to share my expierience as far as the NREMT-P thing is. I was in Phase III from 2004 to 05 and we recieved the SOCOM card but told us they were working on getting back whatever it was they needed for us to able to take the NREMT-P exam in the soon future along with the associates degree. Long story short, when I graduated the course I filled out the application had to get it filled out at the schoolhouse along with signatures from the EMS director and the Medical Director, sent it in with my money and it got sent back with a letter saying our course was not approved and therefore I could not take the exam! I called NR and they told me to call AMEDD. I called AMEDD down in Ft. Sam in TX and talked to the head of the EMS certification dept. who empathized with our situation and has had numerous calls about this topic but said their hands were tied and that suggestions have been made to the schoolhouse to get them back up to par to be able to test the NREMT-P. He told me I needed to call the EMS dept. of USSOCOM in FL and talk to them to see if this topic is being looked at or changed, which I did but the person I needed to talk to was not in at the time (CPT Briggs). The phone number is on the back of the SOCOM paramedic cards! I also read an interesting article on the internet from the SOCOM medical director just recently that stated they are going away from the National Registry standard and more towards the Combat Medicine Approach, which makes me think they will probably not go back which makes since as we need the medical training on what we will expierience in war more than civilian side of medicine and its protocols. But it does seem a shame that when a 18D gets out of active duty whenever they choose, or have to, that even though they went to an CoAEMSP approved Paramedic course, they will only be able to work as an EMT-B unless they go through a whole new program. So much for making a long story short, sorry! Just wanted to shed some light on the Picture that it has not happened as of yet!

Hi. Welcome aboard. You need to do a couple of things (I'm in a really good mood, some Brothers called the Wrath of God [not allah, God] down on a terrorist asshat today).

First of all you need to fill out your profile. Then read the rules and all the stickies. Then you need to go to the Introductions thread and introduce yourself.

And please, please, please - use paragraphs.

Tex Tackleberry · 06-15-2006, 06:05

I was reading up on the 18D forums and came across this one that I have some but un-verified information.Realizing that I am a Volunteer firefighter/EMR in Jacksonville,Fl; I come across SOCM students from all branches.

Usally our(civilian) EMT-B through EMT-P are required for "ride a long" and clinical training before they test for NR. We(firefighters) are under the impression that you(18D students) were here for experiance and NR requirements.I come across the instructors every now and then and I will try to confirm my info ASAP.

It isn't much input though it might be some what helpful. By no means am I trying to step out of my lane,understanding that I am only a DEP and not a soldier.

Delta62 · 12-23-2005, 01:27

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Originally Posted by ender18d

I keep hearing rumblings that the schoolhouse may get back the ability to grant NREMT-P certification to 18D's (just read it again in the other paramedic thread in this forum)... Does anyone on here have any first-hand knowledge of this? If this rumor is true, how would this affect guys who have already gone through the course but did not have the chance to get NREMT-P certified? Would we be grandfathered in and given the chance to test?

Thanks in advance!

Hey ender18d,

I left there this past Aug, I was an instructor with SOCMSSC. This was a common question so I will share what we found out; It all depends if your class was eligible for NREMT-P or the SOCOM Paramedic. I assume by your question that you were awarded the SOCOM Paramedic. If so you may register and take the NREMT-P written/practical exam BUT they will not grade it. The reason is at the time you went through the course it wasn't recognized by the NREMT and it is required to have attended a recognized program.
At the time I left there were negotiations with the Registry so that may happen again. As far as being grandfathered that remains to be seen. If I hear any further I will communicate.

ender18d · 12-23-2005, 02:08

I appreciate the info! Yeah, I got a SOCM Paramedic card... hopefully they will work out a way to grandfather us in at some point!

-E

Surgicalcric · 12-23-2005, 09:21

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Originally Posted by ender18d

I appreciate the info! Yeah, I got a SOCM Paramedic card... hopefully they will work out a way to grandfather us in at some point!

-E

Hell I am hoping the course atleast will qualify as a refresher so I can get my Registry card back. Mine expired a little over a year ago... dammit.

I tried to get into a SFMSSP class but the 1SG over at SOPC wasnt having it...soooo...

Crip