10-06-2005, 11:06
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New ACUs
Ive got my first set. What do you all think about them? I like them better. I dont understand why they are making us use pin-on qualification badges. I also like not having to polish black boots any more on a regular basis!
Im interested in whay yall have to say.
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10-06-2005, 11:07
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Originally Posted by haztacmedic
Ive got my first set. What do you all think about them? I like them better. I dont understand why they are making us use pin-on qualification badges. I also like not having to polish black boots any more on a regular basis!
Im interested in whay yall have to say.
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They suck.
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10-06-2005, 12:58
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TR: What has been your problems with them? Ive been doing a search to find why the pin-on badges are being forced on troops. With everything else being velcroed on, it makes no sense to me why this is. I like the ACUs because they are something new. The real test on them is yet to come.
TR: Also do you really think that the new camo digital pattern is really a universal pattern? I can see where the pattern "sticks out" like a sore thumb around my part of the country!
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10-06-2005, 13:10
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Originally Posted by haztacmedic
TR: What has been your problems with them? Ive been doing a search to find why the pin-on badges are being forced on troops. With everything else being velcroed on, it makes no sense to me why this is. I like the ACUs because they are something new. The real test on them is yet to come.
TR: Also do you really think that the new camo digital pattern is really a universal pattern? I can see where the pattern "sticks out" like a sore thumb around my part of the country!
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Too hot, too thin, bad camo pattern in most locations, too much velcro, too expensive, too much time to put together, too many new uniforms.
If you had been through fatigue uniforms from the old cotton starchies, to the polyesters, to the jungles, to the cammies, to the original BDUs, to the improved BDUs, to the lightweight cotton BDUs, to the polyester BDUs, to the ACUs, you might find that the novelty of paying a couple of hundred dollars each time to make a fashion statement (and a progressively less functional uniform) is a bit much to ask of the troops.
Take the old ripstop OG-107 jungles and make them in the BDU and the DCU patterns. Move the lower jacket pockets to the sleeves. Make them for crewmen in Nomex. Voila! My favorite of the above!
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10-06-2005, 14:50
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... Ive been doing a search to find why the pin-on badges are being forced on troops. With everything else being velcroed on, it makes no sense to me why this is.
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Its a uniform issue like everything else I imagine.
A few of the sew shops on Yadkin Rd were making ACU panels with unit patches and flags sewn onto them to cover the sleeve velcro. They were also embroidering ABN wings, scuba bubbles, CIB's, etc onto a swath of ACU cloth and sewing loop velcro onto the ACU top to negate the pin on scare badges. Apparently someone got a case of the a$$ over at Division, atleast thats what I was told at Kim's, and put a stop to it fast and in a hurry.
Made sense to me, but what do I know...
I remember my father offering his opinion about the BDU's replacing the OG-107's; it was similar to TR's. Once you got them, OG-107's, dirty they change color to match their environment.
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10-06-2005, 16:18
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TR, Surgical Cric: Good input. Are the OG-107s the same thing the Ranger Bns wore up to they went camo? TR: Your suggestion sounds good to me but the problem here is that it makes sense!!!
Surgical Cric: What you said about the shops outside of Bragg is interesting. Have you seen anyone wearing velcro jump wings etc?
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10-06-2005, 16:44
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OG-107's, see below for a visual. They were worn by Ranger Regt until sometime in the mid '80's as memory serves me.
As for the velcro jump wings, I did see a 1SG in one of the shops having the velcro panels added to his tops and the embroidery panel containing ABN, Pathfinder, and a CIB being made. A couple weeks later there was an editorial in the Paraglide where it was stated neither the patch panels or the scare badge panels were to be worn as they are not authorized for wear in AR670-1.
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