F-ing FBI

BMT (RIP) · 06-10-2005, 07:18

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QRQ 30 · 06-10-2005, 08:03

A perfect example of Monday Morning quarterbacking.

I doubt if there is/was a single person in the U.S. who would have thought of an operation of the type and scope of 9/11. Of course, NOW everyone does. The indications were hijacking. Until this event hijackers had other purposes in mind than suicide. The procedure was to safely talk/negotiate the plane to the ground.

The FBI blew it but I don't believe anyone would have acted differently BEFORE the incident.

Honestly think of what you would say if prior to 911 someone told you that four airliners would be simultaneously taken over and flown into the WTC and the Pentagon. I would have probably have asked when the movie was coming out.

Our intelligence needed/needs revamping but give credit to a crafty enemy who thinks up totally new and unexpected tactics. OBL wanted to bring down the WTC so bad that this was his second attempt.

**Bill Harsey** · 06-10-2005, 09:15

I know the man who about 10 years ago was invited to brief the Mayor and Police Chief (and staffs) of New York City, in the mayors own office and told them the greatest terrorism risk they faced was from a hijacked aircraft being flown into their tall buildings. The trade centers were not named.

He was laughed out of the room.

jbour13 · 06-10-2005, 09:28

I'm probably sealing my fate to be the laughing stock of this forum by posting this.

Tom Clancy wrote a book called "Debt of Honor" in which this scenario played out against the capitol building. The news had reported about 2 weeks after the 9-11 attacks that Clancy was being interviewed to see what he had known before the attack on the Pentagon and WTC.

Believe me, it's been thought about and asymetric think tanks are a booming buisness because of 9-11.

Maybe PVT Snuffy won't be laughed at when he says "all a terrorist needs to do is infect himself with a communicable disease and fly around touching and coughing on people."

If you have an idea there is a way to refine it to an effective means.

**Bill Harsey** · 06-10-2005, 09:49

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Originally Posted by jbour13

I'm probably sealing my fate to be the laughing stock of this forum by posting this.

Tom Clancy wrote a book called "Debt of Honor" in which this scenario played out against the capitol building. The news had reported about 2 weeks after the 9-11 attacks that Clancy was being interviewed to see what he had known before the attack on the Pentagon and WTC.

Believe me, it's been thought about and asymetric think tanks are a booming buisness because of 9-11.

Maybe PVT Snuffy won't be laughed at when he says "all a terrorist needs to do is infect himself with a communicable disease and fly around touching and coughing on people."

If you have an idea there is a way to refine it to an effective means.

I remember something about Clancey getting interviewed because of that book.

QRQ 30 · 06-10-2005, 09:50

[QUOTE]Believe me, it's been thought about and asymetric think tanks are a booming buisness because of 9-11. [?QUOTE]

Agreed it has been thought about but most gave it as much seriousness as James Bond or Star Wars.; The key to the above quote IMHO is "becausse of 911"

I have to say that the danger from OBL isn't constant terrorism. The man is IMHO a genious at innovation, planing, training and execution. It was about 7-8 years between attempts to drop the WTC,

I would predict that his next operation will be something completely different and as such unexpected. He needs to be taken out of the equation. It probably won't stop day to day terrorism but it may prevent more devastating and unexpected strikes.

jbour13 · 06-10-2005, 11:40

QRQ 30

I agree partly with your observation of my post.

My intent was to state that the man that Mr. Harsey was referring to was not the only one to think of this scenario playing out. That man was in a position to be listened to and was ignored and heckled for his thoughts.

We all know that Tom Clancy tends to be overly dramatic and add fluff to his stories, but his stories have some sliver of truth to them. Mr. Clancy published this book in 1994. 1 year after the first WTC attempt and 7 before the big one.

Now with looking at the timeline you posted, do you think that OBL/UBL could've gotten an idea from this? No conspiracy theory, just an observation.

My biggest point to take away from this is that these threats have been thought of before and ignored. Clancy put it in the written word and it was taken lightly because it was a fictional portrayal. But ultimately it was ignored and people act as if this was some fluke idea that made it to fruition.

There are only few things that are impossible in this world. I think that since our blinders have been smacked off of our faces we should take that as a sign of the times and be a little less conformist like our enemy. You yourself have spoke of adaptability in countering the enemy by emulating their lifestyles and habits. How soon America forgets that.