03-05-2005, 13:02
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Rudy Giuliani
So Catwoman and I heard him speak last night at a big corporate lawyers' dinner here in LA. (Got our pictures taken with him too.)
I'll tell you, I was really impressed. He's a really entertaining speaker. Funny, personable, a great political candidate in that regard. Spoke about leadership and what he learned during the aftermath of 9/11. I wish I had something to take notes with, because I thought he made some excellent points about leadership. The first one was that you have to have a set of beliefs to be a good leader. Ronald Reagan was his example in this regard. He had 5 other points, which I think may be in a book he wrote. But anyway, I thought it was a great speech. I think he will be capable of breaking down the blue-state resistance to what we need to do in this war. The question is whether his moderation on various issues will eliminate red-state support.
He said during the brief Q&A session following the speech that he has not decided whether he will run for POTUS in 2008. But the way he answered the question made it pretty clear to me that he is thinking about it.
I think he'd be an excellent candidate if the campaign is run the right way. Rematch of the aborted race against Hillary, but on a bigger battlefield.
What do you guys think?
P.S. Got a signed Reggie Bush jersey with Orange Bowl patch at the silent auction.  
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03-05-2005, 13:08
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What do you guys think?
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Who is Reggie Bush?
I think that Rudy is a great guy, probably an outstanding leader up to Gubernatorial level, but is a RINO who I would not bother to vote for as a Presidential candidate.
Pro-too many wrong things, and anti-too many right issues.
Just my .02.
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03-05-2005, 13:12
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Who is Reggie Bush?
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This is Reggie Bush, aka "The President."
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03-05-2005, 13:20
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This is Reggie Bush, aka "The President."
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I thought that the President was George W. Bush, and you had mentioned the possibility of Rudy running in the future?
That guy doesn't look like either one of them.
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03-10-2005, 10:13
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I think that Rudy is a great guy, probably an outstanding leader up to Gubernatorial level, but is a RINO who I would not bother to vote for as a Presidential candidate.
Pro-too many wrong things, and anti-too many right issues.
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So if we have Rudy v. Hillary, you'd stay home?
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03-11-2005, 05:22
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I'd vote for Rudy in a heartbeat.
Most of what he is known as "for" and "against" that get him labeled a "RHINO" are specifically related to New York City, and easily dealt with by simply saying that they are State or local issues (and most of them are). A few are not, but I can live with them.
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03-11-2005, 12:35
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So if we have Rudy v. Hillary, you'd stay home?
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Possibly.
Both are clearly anti-Second Amendment.
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03-11-2005, 12:59
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Possibly.
Both are clearly anti-Second Amendment.
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I did not think you were a single-issue voter. Hmmm.
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03-11-2005, 13:16
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I did not think you were a single-issue voter. Hmmm.
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That, and National Defense are very high on my list.
If both parties have the same planks, I will go vote Libertarian, or another third party. And stock up on hardware and ammo.
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03-11-2005, 13:19
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Possibly.
Both are clearly anti-Second Amendment.
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I like Rudy and always thought he did a good job as mayor of NY. He is; however, a product of the NY state of mind on firearms.
I would NOT vote for anybody that was anti-Second Amendment!
Hillary, is a joke! If they were the only choice I wouild indeed have to stay home!
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03-11-2005, 15:20
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I voted libertarian when Bush Sr. ran against Clinton for reasons similar to those you have identified. I am not so sure that was the right choice in hindsight.
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