02-11-2005, 07:44
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Basic Communications Instruction.
I need a radio communications technology primer.
Any suggestions?
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02-11-2005, 08:03
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Kia ora, bro
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Press the big button to talk.
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02-11-2005, 08:08
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Originally Posted by Huey14
Press the big button to talk.

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Are you sure it's not the little button?
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02-11-2005, 09:51
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Originally Posted by lrd
I need a radio communications technology primer.
Any suggestions?
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-72/index.html
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02-11-2005, 11:41
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
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Thank you, RL. That will get me started.
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02-11-2005, 13:03
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lrd,
Along the above lines:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...olicy/army/fm/
Got to Edit -> Find (or hit CTRL+F) and enter either "communications", "signal", or "radio". Some of those manuals are older but they may give you some background.
Are you looking for anything specific or just trying to get started?
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02-11-2005, 13:11
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Originally Posted by CommoGeek
lrd,
Along the above lines:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...olicy/army/fm/
Got to Edit -> Find (or hit CTRL+F) and enter either "communications", "signal", or "radio". Some of those manuals are older but they may give you some background.
Are you looking for anything specific or just trying to get started?
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Just trying to get started. I need to understand how the systems I'm supporting work.
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02-11-2005, 15:51
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Without knowing what precise systems you are supporting, this may help:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-19/Ch3.htm#s5
Section V above shows how HF antennas are "built".
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-43/index.html
Was required reading for me as a 2LT. It doesn't cover all of the specifics of SOF commo but covers how Big Army makes commo.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-32/index.html
Will have info on SINCGARS, the concepts which are similar to some SOF systems (Freq. Hopping)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-74/index.html covers ALE and HF radios. We used that recently.
I'm leaving on R and R in the next few days. I can give you my .mil account if you don't have it. For SOF commo I'd hit up SWCS at Bragg and ask to speak to someone from the Special Operations Communications Systems Operators Course (SOCSOC) or the 18E instructors 18E committee. Interoperability is a plus and much of the SOF commo gear is the same from one branch to the other.
Harris Communications makes good commo gear, http://www.harris.com/. If you go there you may get some terms you can google for info on. You can also browse, http://www.viasat.com/ for some info.
Did that help or just muddy the picture?
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02-12-2005, 08:29
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Originally Posted by lrd
Just trying to get started. I need to understand how the systems I'm supporting work.
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No problem, we talking AM, or FM, ELF, VLF, HF, VHF, UHF, SHF, Microwave, Satellite Comms, wireless phones, hand held radios, encrypted, freq hopping, or freq jammers?
Let me know
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(you may want to start here before you decide to engage an 18E in a communications conversation.  )
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/radio.htm
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02-11-2005, 13:06
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Originally Posted by lrd
Thank you, RL. That will get me started.
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After checking this out, I think I need something more basic.
The last time I studied radio waves was in 1978. I need something that will teach me about radio waves, modulation, and antennas...
I need to know how radios work on a very basic level before I begin putting the systems together.
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03-24-2008, 12:22
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Commo Primer?
On understanding antenna theory and propagation go to Amazon Books, Books a Million or Barnes & Nobles and buy the ARRL Antenna Handbook. AARL - Amateur Radio Relay League (Civilian Hams) or Google ARRL and go to their web site. Starts at fundementals of electricity thru theory and propagation and antenna construction. This should keep you going for the next 12 months. Enjoy
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03-24-2008, 12:29
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03-24-2008, 12:33
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Wow! Did I really say all of the above? Anyway, "Civilian HAMs" are by far the most common.
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03-24-2008, 13:24
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If you can find someone with an extra copy of this, it will give you a good start on the old school way of doing business.
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03-24-2008, 13:27
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If you can find someone with an extra copy of this, it will give you a good start on the old school way of doing business. 
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Old school has a way of coming back around and being the latest and greatest...look at 70's fashion
Sadly that book along with the old ECAC TTP went the way of the dodo when they pried the 99-van out of our hands.
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