George Soros's Plan B If Biden Loses

[Paslode]

It's amazing how much money and resources Spooky Dude throws at changing the world and playing God. It's even more amazing he hasn't received a 'gift' from above like General Soleimani.

From Townhall:

So what to do? First, cast your vote wisely on November 3. Pray diligently for God's mercy. And stand with elected leaders and police if and when they face Soros-inspired efforts to "mobilize civil society" to oust a duly-elected President Trump.

https://townhall.com/columnists/fran...loses-n2579176

[Sohei]

Only in America can one openly act "treasonous" with impunity.

[Penn]

A read, well worth your time.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...A9/core-reader

[Paslode]

Very informative! Kinda spooky! Thanks Penn.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Paslode

It's amazing how much money and resources Spooky Dude throws at changing the world and playing God. It's even more amazing he hasn't received a 'gift' from above like General Soleimani.

From Townhall:



https://townhall.com/columnists/fran...loses-n2579176

I would push back a bit, not on Soros, but on the description and mission execution of OTPOR.

Strictly non violent and non kinetic, much like an evolved analog to CIA backed Solidarity, indigenous and organic to Poland.

OTPOR directly led to CANVAS: https://canvasopedia.org/about-us/

CANVAS weekly email update is worth reading.

Same Serbian OTPOR founders teaching a course on it at Harvard’s JFK School.

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/srdja-popovic

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/de...M_Brochure.pdf

Disclosure: I took the course a number of years ago and definitely buy non-violence as a higher probability/durability option for many(but not all) organic/indigenous resistance movements.

“Laughtivism” was a particular innovation used by the Serbian OTPOR to get around Milosevic’s secret police.

We’re certainly seeing attempts at that on both sides recently.

Perhaps Soros funded them, rumour also was CIA may have, I have no idea.

What I do know is that OTPOR wasn’t as described in Serbia as per the article, and Soros will never create a legitimate resistance movement in the US or elsewhere.

Fund existing ones?

Certainly.

But external actors creating them from nothing almost always leads to failure.

If I had to guess, I’d say the organised efforts in the US have far more in common with the Arab Spring, particularly in Libya.

The core protestors and their tech savvy advisors building digital protest networks (including numerous local ethnic US resident big tech employees) had no experience in running effective street mobs, so they mashed themselves up with soccer hooligans as their street muscle.

Akin to tech savvy leaders building digital networks to connect, influence, and deploy protestors seeded with ANTIFA/Black Bloc street mobs.

Soros’ money can certainly catalyze things, but can it actually create capacity and capability?

I’m thinking no.

I’ve always thought of Soros as a money man, rather than the boogeyman.

Yup. The finance guy in an insurgent network is always pretty high priority in the target deck, for good reason. Passion alone doesn’t put food in your belly.

But from a distance, the rising focus on Soros reminds me of the sad excuses made over the years across Africa blaming the Rhodesians and South Africans or Arabs blaming Mossad for everything.

If Soros, his sons, and his money disappeared tomorrow its not going to fundamentally change things.

If it would, or more like if we believe it would, what does that say about fragility and lack of basic resilience?

To me, it’s a repeat of 2016 election foreign influence.

Of course they tried, like we do.

The question we should ask is: IF foreign influence attempts were successful(under $1 million proven spent I believe?), what does that say about fragility and resilience.

Does that mean as a society we are more akin to dangerously dry and unkempt California scrub or a well managed lush rain forest that can’t burn?

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Flagg

Does that mean as a society we are more akin to dangerously dry and unkempt California scrub or a well managed lush rain forest that can’t burn?

Appreciate the whole post. In your view, do you think it's possible that both conditions can exist within a country given the disparate characteristics between what are often called "elite coasts" (containing huge cities & numbers of electoral votes) and other large areas of the land mass?

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Appreciate the whole post. In your view, do you think it's possible that both conditions can exist within a country given the disparate characteristics between what are often called "elite coasts" (containing huge cities & numbers of electoral votes) and other large areas of the land mass?

Absolutely!

Especially in the United States.

I guess that’s both the superpower and curse of the US Republic that few people outside of it(and many inside of it) can’t or won’t comprehend.

The US Republic is like 50 closely aligned nations but with great latitude to compete/experiment/innovate at the local/state level under a shared federal Constitutional umbrella.

Diversity at the macro state level balancing the sovereignty of humanity(House of Representatives) with geography(Senate)

Places like San Francisco and New York have outsized power and influence due to their innovation/value creation and banking/finance sectors, respectively.

“Flyover country” has quite understated outsized power with their massive food & energy production per capita.

You can’t eat innovation or numbers on a screen or fill your car with it.

You can’t grow food or pump energy without innovation or finance.

The US is facing deep existential issues, but only a moron would bet against the US long-term.

I reckon the coastal elites and the folks in flyover country need to understand they are engaged in a form of mutual assured destruction and they are better off together than apart.

[tom kelly]

Is George Soros the "NEW" Howard Hughes ? Has anybody seen George, outside of his NY compound ? How old is George now, my guess is mid-90's also is he still in control of his money ? or does someone other than the Soros family...run the show?

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by tom kelly

Is George Soros the "NEW" Howard Hughes ? Has anybody seen George, outside of his NY compound ? How old is George now, my guess is mid-90's also is he still in control of his money ? or does someone other than the Soros family...run the show?

I think it's still him and his sons holding the reigns.

I do think there's a growing need to develop strategy and doctrine around how to counter non-state actors who are using non-kinetic means to undermine western institutions(basically, what the good guys did to the Soviets/Warsaw Pact in Poland being used against us).

If Soros(or some similar oligarch) was actually funding violent overthrow it would be pretty straight forward to reduce that threat based on the last two decades of experience.

It's the non-kinetic UW part that makes it all a tougher nut to crack.

A small well resourced DOJ/SEC/IRS/OGA task force exclusively targeting oligarchs who interfere with and undermine US sovereignty could disrupt someone like Soros, and others of his ilk.

It would also be a signal to US oligarchs and those with considerable social influence/control to perhaps voluntarily take a position like those in the US military of being politically active, but not using their credibility/position for political folly.

Putin would throw them in jail and/or serve them polonium tea.

I'd think ruthlessly kicking them in their bank accounts and putting them on permanent defence would be a culturally/legally acceptable option.

[Box]

Whore-Hay Sore-Ohs and the fate of the republic…

The biggest threat to America is Americans. Soros, Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, – all just names made famous by Americans with short memories. We cant blame them – they are only pandering to a society that feeds their appetite for power the way an elementary school kid feeds those shit-slinging monkeys at the local zoo. Power that we the people give them freely and with little consequence.


-That’s not to say that Chuck Schumer isn’t a mountain of a man – he stands as tall as an oak tree
…a 5 foot 9 inch tall Oak Tree.

-I’m not saying that Joe Biden is crazy - he has managed to spend 47 years in the swamp not because he is crazy but because he has a mind like a steel trap - a steel trap that has rusted shut after sitting in a swamp for 47 years.

What I am saying is that every election cycle, Americans try harder and harder to personify the old adage about people deserving the government they get and I don’t understand why. Maybe it is because they are mesmerized by Nancy Pelosi and her deep, throaty, genuine laugh, the kind of laugh that mimics the sound a dog makes just before it throws up – who knows.

Just don’t blame Nancy – she only wants to maintain her standard of living. A standard of living that her taxpaying constituents have grown accustomed to providing for her after decades of sharing the fruits of her labor.

George Soros loves freedom with all his heart – sort of like if his heart was a mob informant, and liberty was the East River. Everyone in the world knows it – yet everyone in the world still just adores the way he pays for their souls in cash and all they need to do is start a few structure fires in their own neighborhoods.

Week after week we watch these fucking crime lords crash economies, swindle the masses, betray the public trust, and literally disrespect us to our faces and we just keep going back for more. Sure, I know that we the people are unable to accept that we’re actually being abused but it’s just as much our fault for electing them to office in the first place. After all, AOC even admitted that reason there was so much corruption in politics is because we don’t pay them enough.

It’s our fault.

We don’t appreciate the love-bombing and grand romantic gestures that are part of our bizarre affair with career politicians – we should, but we just don’t appreciate everything they do for us. When our politicians come home smelling like a three Martini lunch with lipstick stains on their collar from working late with that two bit lobbyist we get all indignant and pissy because of their behavior instead of thanking them for the COVID check that they gave us. We don’t even realize how important it is for us to commit to them early and vote before election day…
…before the media is forced to report the truth.

I know that Joe feels guilty for what he did to Tara Reade – but he's sorry and he’ll never do it again. I know he said integrated schools would be a jungle and that minorities could be as smart as white kids – but he didn’t mean it. Besides, he is on his best behavior right now – it’s almost like a honeymoon with him and his voters. Forget the last 47 years…
…THINGS.ARE.GOING.TO.BE.DIFFERENT.THIS.TIME

Haters will try to swear that society’s fascination with democratic politicians and their policies resembles battered woman syndrome – but that’s crazy talk. Society isn’t “trapped” by liberal policies…
-we aren’t becoming increasingly financially dependent on the government
-our financial problems haven’t been manufactured by the left

We just need to all get along - for the children’s sake. I know many people threaten to leave the country but when you pay attention, they are just afraid to leave. Liberals in government aren’t actually abusing the public trust, we are just being stingy because we are blinded by systemic racism. I know that people are depressed but that’s not the fault of government shutting down society – it’s just a byproduct of our own self-esteem – its something “we the people" need to work on to improve our OWN lifestyle.
-the liberals love us and if we just do as we are told, things will change!

I know that the last four years of political bickering has damaged our relationships with friends and family, caused severe anxiety for people on both sides of the aisle, created an national feeling of hopelessness, and implanted that sad realization that we have no control over what happens next - but its all our fault.

It isn’t the fault of people like Soros, Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer – it’s the fault of the American people for empowering them.

[Old Dog New Trick]

As Mike T said...

“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face!”


As I just told my 13y/o son not to panic about what comes after the election. Regardless of who wins the radical left will not be happy or content. The good news is more Americans have seen what’s behind doors number 1...2...and 3 than ever before. Trump pulled the curtains back.

If Trump wins there will be violence from BLM/Antifa against our liberal cities. And some of that will spill over into suburbia to the point where they will get “punched in the face!” After awhile they will get tired of getting punched in the face and return to the basements where they will go back to playing Call of Duty and drinking out of a sippy cup.

If Biden wins, we will patiently wait until the 2024 election and resist the changes the progressive left attempted under the Obama/Biden. It might not even take but 2-years for the bastards to get voted out of office at the local level and the congress.

The Republic is not dead until the patriots give up.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Flagg

Soros’ money can certainly catalyze things, but can it actually create capacity and capability?

I’m thinking no.

I’ve always thought of Soros as a money man, rather than the boogeyman.

Yup. The finance guy in an insurgent network is always pretty high priority in the target deck, for good reason. Passion alone doesn’t put food in your belly.
?

I don't know anything about OPTOR other than what you mention, but I do agree the attention towards Soro's is a bit out of focus as far as central character of evil. He's the money man, the enabler. But there are others such as Tom Steyer that are involved as well.

Capacity and Capability might come from people like for example Hardy Merriman, Ankur Asthana, Marium Navid, and Kifah Shah that are mentioned in a Breitbart article today. They are said to "have been conducting daily training and outcome simulations." According to the article Merriamn worked with Gene Sharp.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...d-of-election/

Another article today brings to light what's going on behind the scenes and who's involved. Federal employees were apparently busted through a leaked ZOOM call.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...nning-tuesday/

And that appears to me to substantiate much of what was contained in Penn's link as to what stage we are at and who's involved.

It's quite the organized plot.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I don't know anything about OPTOR other than what you mention, but I do agree the attention towards Soro's is a bit out of focus as far as central character of evil. He's the money man, the enabler. But there are others such as Tom Steyer that are involved as well.

Capacity and Capability might come from people like for example Hardy Merriman, Ankur Asthana, Marium Navid, and Kifah Shah that are mentioned in a Breitbart article today. They are said to "have been conducting daily training and outcome simulations." According to the article Merriamn worked with Gene Sharp.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...d-of-election/

Another article today brings to light what's going on behind the scenes and who's involved. Federal employees were apparently busted through a leaked ZOOM call.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...nning-tuesday/

And that appears to me to substantiate much of what was contained in Penn's link as to what stage we are at and who's involved.

It's quite the organized plot.

Gene Sharp is certainly the professor of western non-violent political resistance.

Used with great effect in Eastern Europe to defeat communism(Singing Revolution in the Baltics was brilliant), but now the same tools and doctrine are being turned inwards.

In the US, it’s largely the Left that has rediscovered and leveraged the tools and doctrine, which is a real shame.

Gene Sharp’s work likely has had an even greater impact on the world than William Demming’s work in manufacturing on Total Quality Management(Toyota and then every other auto manufacturer).

I like Breitbart, but I seriously doubt the Left will resort to organised industrial scale mass violence post election.

Mass disruption, mass monkeywrenching, and scattered violence? Absolutely.

If the Left attempt a Tet Offensive equivalent post election, I reckon it will be 100x worse for them than their current shenanigans.

I’ve been half joking that this reminds me of that scene in It’s a Wonderful Life where “Everytime a bell rings an angel gets his wings”.

The reality is “Everytime a business is looted, a car is burned, and/or a person is forced to swear allegiance to BLM, Trump gets X votes.”

West German public opinion polls displayed a shockingly high level of support for Baader Meinhoff Red Army Faction, right up until they shifted to violence.

Then they were hunted down and liquidated with little complaint from any other than the hard left fringe.

It’s odd and uncomfortable to be hoping the Left chooses violence as a less effective and more likely/decisive defeat for them.

[pcfixer]

Originally Posted by Paslode

It's amazing how much money and resources Spooky Dude throws at changing the world and playing God. It's even more amazing he hasn't received a 'gift' from above like General Soleimani.

From Townhall:



https://townhall.com/columnists/fran...loses-n2579176

So why is he arrested for treason by FBI? At least treatment like Qasem Soleimani!

[Box]

I need a fucking time machine so I can go back to the 1990's so I can tell mother fuckers that called me a conspiracy nut...
...evolving standards to force women through the SFQC
...transgendered troops will be celebrated in service
...legalization of REAL drugs not just a few harmless tokes of reefer
...overt commie democrats pushing the nation into socialism
...democrat money buying red states at a fever pace

Nope, cant happen here, this new internet thing has everyone connected and there's no waaaaay that the American people would ever fall for these shenanigans. The reality of course is we all know that those Texas cow-towns are growing - they'll be full of San Franciscans in a few years, and just as sophisticated.


I.TOLD.YOU.SO.



I.FUCKING.TOLD.YOU.SO.