Was Adm. McRaven Always “Weird”?

[TWITCHY]

Did Adm. McRaven’s time in Austin make him a “weird”, Trump-hating liberal or was he always that way? Forgive me for the source.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/polit...oke/index.html

[Paslode]

The only question that came to mind with McRaven, Brennan or whomever was entitled to top secret clearance, is why would they need the clearance if they are retired and/or no longer employed by the US Government.

[Joker]

I have had several interactions with him, different command relationships. In my opinion, he was, and is, an entitled whiney bitch. He, nor anyone (me included) should not possess a security clearance at any level after they retire from the job that requires it.

[TWITCHY]

Thanks, for the replies. My additional question (as I have never held clearance) Do Soldiers, Marines, etc. keep their clearances after active duty? Also, Intel is distributed on a need to know basis (correct?), so what would be the reason for ex-CIA Chief or whoever to be read-in on intel. I think it’s as Trump said , a common courtesy, which provides these people with a future means of getting rich.

[Joker]

Most folks do not keep their clearance when they leave the “need to know” position unless they are going to another “need to know” position.

The reason some high ranking folks keep theirs is they come back to advise the folks that replaced them.

None of these assclowns will be asked to come back and advise this cabinet. C-ya! (as in good bye)

[Mustang Man]

"Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency," he added.

This right here, just another virtue signaler. Guarantee he doesn't mean this and desperately wants to retain it. It would so be of Trump and a great troll if he actually revokes his cleance.

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by Joker

Most folks do not keep their clearance when they leave the “need to know” position unless they are going to another “need to know” position.

From my experience, most clearances are not actively revoked when people leave the position requiring it. Rather, they lose access to he systems and information but the DIA does not spend manpower to close or revoke a clearance.

With TS being reverified every 5 years and Secret every 10, once the investigation is completed and the clearance granted, no further action is required unless disqualifying information is disclosed.

The media inference that person that leaves a position requiring access classified information may retain access to those systems after leaving that position is false and a mischaracterization of how it actually works.

When they retire, they turn in the CAC and the SIPR access gets turned off but the Clearance remains on active until it expires.

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by Joker

Most folks do not keep their clearance when they leave the “need to know” position unless they are going to another “need to know” position.

The reason some high ranking folks keep theirs is they come back to advise the folks that replaced them.

None of these assclowns will be asked to come back and advise this cabinet. C-ya! (as in good bye)

Exactly! I tried to explain this to a Never Trumper on another site, but alas all he can see is Trump did something thus it is bad. My post copied below:

Bbblhd672: There’s this concept in classified materials and information security called “need to know.” None of those ex-government employees/appointees/etc have a continuing “need to know” classified information. Thus, there should be no outrage over their security clearances being revoked, especially if there is any indication they are using that access without need to know.
As a submarine radioman I had a Top Secret, Special Intelligence clearance. The day I was no longer a service member my need to know went away. My former colleagues in the radio room could no longer discuss any of the classified information we had discussed previously because I no longer had the need to know, despite still having a TS/SI clearance. However my obligation to never reveal any classified information has not and will never go away.

His response:

You've missed the point. High level security officials have clearance to support the ongoing intelligence projects with their experience. But hey, let's just ignore history and see how that goes.

He (and all the other lefties) just cannot accept that someone who no longer has a job requiring access shouldn't have a security clearance.
Retired, fired, whatever the reason for not having the job any longer equals no security clearance.
If the President needs someone to advise him and the Cabinet then the security clearance can be restored.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by TWITCHY

Did Adm. McRaven’s time in Austin make him a “weird”, Trump-hating liberal or was he always that way? Forgive me for the source.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/polit...oke/index.html

He was an Obama Admiral......he would not have sat in that position for 3 years under Obama without supporting his destructive policies on the force and the mission I say that because everyone up and down the chain was seeing the damage and the ones who were ardent conservatives and understood the damage being done to our country, troops, and allies were speaking up or doing something contrary to POTUS policy that conflicted with his desired endstate resulting in over 200 High Ranking officers being fired over that administration and McRaven stuck it out for 3 years......2+2 is still 4 all the signs and indicators are there now and was then just like Votel will IMO come out as a liberal when he has fullfilled his own desire if he goes no further than CENTCOM.

[tonyz]

Some additional insight into Brennan (who really was the subject of McRaven’s rant).

He plays the pitiful political hack and shabby radical to the end.

American Spectator
George Neumayr
August 17, 2018, 12:05 am

The real story about John Brennan’s security clearance is not that he lost it under a Republican president but that he once got one. One of the peculiar footnotes of Brennan’s history is that he obtained a position in Bill Casey’s CIA after having supported the Soviet-backed American Communist Party at the height of the Cold War. Had Casey conducted the polygraph test in which Brennan admitted to voting for Soviet proxy Gus Hall in 1976, Casey would have tossed him out of the office. Casey hated communists. Whoever hired Brennan must have been a Deep State holdover from the Carter years.

All of Brennan’s propaganda about “Trump-Russian collusion” is just sour grapes over the loss of his preferred candidate, Hillary, for whom he was desperately auditioning by launching an unfounded investigation into her opponent, and a remnant of his pro-Soviet nostalgia. Brennan’s much-vaunted “conscience” was pricked not by Soviet leaders who slaughtered their own people and enslaved hapless nations but by a Russian leader who — brace yourselves — isn’t keen on postmodern Western propaganda in favor of gay rights. Brennan prided himself on his “commitment” to alternative lifestyles and would pad down the halls of the CIA in a “rainbow lanyard,” as Bill Gertz once reported. Putin’s refusal to hold “gay pride” parades in Moscow infuriated Brennan. He also didn’t care for Putin’s unsentimental approach to Islamic terrorism. Brennan defined jihad as “self-improvement” and lobbied Obama to embrace the fanatics of the Muslim Brotherhood. Brennan got his wish when the Obama-backed Morsi rose to power in Egypt and wrecked it.

Michael Flynn thought that Brennan was a PC jackass of the first order, in thrall to the Muslims with whom he had traveled to Mecca during his stint as station chief in Saudi Arabia. Brennan got his revenge on Flynn by unleashing on him Stefan Halper, the vaguely pro-Republican oaf and Cambridge con man the Obama administration hired to spy on Trumpworld. Halper reported to his friends in British intelligence that Flynn in 2014 had been seen at a Cambridge University forum fraternizing with a Russian historian. That morsel of half-baked gossip was then fed to Brennan. In 2015, the British and presumably Halper kept bird-dogging Flynn. Part of Brennan’s “Trump-Russian collusion” fetish feeds off his hatred for Flynn, who had criticized the Obama administration for pursuing a pointlessly anachronistic course against Putin. Islamic terrorism, not Russian nationalism, threatened the vital national interests of America, argued Flynn. Brennan stewed over this disagreement and exacted his revenge on Flynn through Justice Department official Sally Yates, a Democratic hack who had joined the anti-Trump ring in the Obama administration along with her subordinate Bruce Ohr and fellow saboteur Peter Strzok.

The only criticism that Trump deserves for yanking Brennan’s security clearance is its delay. He should have done it on day one. Brennan was a security risk from the start — an anti-American radical of staggering proportions who should never have been permitted within a hundred-mile radius of Langley. Putin, Trump once said, is “laughing his ass off” at the mayhem dolts like Brennan have caused. Putin is also no doubt laughing at the spectacle of a former communist rising to the top of the CIA, then conducting in his retirement an attempted coup against a patriotic president on the claimed grounds that he is insufficiently hostile to Mother Russia.

Like the execrable Peter Strzok, with whom he conspired to “stop” candidate Trump, Brennan sputters about Trump as a “Russian asset.” But if anyone qualifies as a useful idiot for the Russians, it is Brennan. At the most critical moments in the Cold War, he was rooting for the Reds. He has gone from demanding “détente” to forbidding it, from raging about “McCarthyism” to impersonating it. Brennan never grew up. In his youth, he clamored for the overthrow of an American president; nothing has changed in his dotage. He is still vowing to sabotage an American president, and indulges the adolescent delusion that he somehow speaks for the proletariat, insisting that it will “defeat” Trump.

Samantha Powers, another lefty drip in Obama’s anti-Trump ring, warned Trump that he shouldn’t risk the wrath of Brennan. Who knows, implied Powers, what he might do? In taking away Brennan’s security clearance, Trump just took Powers at her word.

https://spectator.org/john-brennan-a...rom-the-start/

[Old Dog New Trick]

McRaven is back in the news attacking POTUS Trump over recent remarks and events.

I hope that with all the smudge marks and black eyes NSW (namely SEALs) have some that won’t “buff out” will bring to light an Admiral complicit in rampant corruption and cover ups including murder and war crimes going all the way to President Obama.

McRaven should be lucky to retire in peace with all the shenanigans and mistakes SEALs have made since the beginning of GWOT/EF.

[WarriorDiplomat]

To us that served under the last administration his attitude is no surprise.....its commanders like ADM McRaven that the military is still stacked with these leaders are more than sycophants they are true blue leftist liberals.....most of them today think like McRaven a man who apparently lacked the judgement to see the evil in the Democrats policies but I can't give a SOCOM 4 star that pass he is too educated and too informed to not know how destructive they were.....the conclusion must be he is willing to allow the greatness of this country suffer for his own personal ambitions......Votel, Thomas and Milley are of the same ilk no doubt. How can one lead a military and defend the constitution and yet not know how molested she will be under Democrats and more importantly not realize that citizens also see their lack of faith.

Hyper conventional SEAL's and JSOC does not surprise why he is so one dimensional and straight forward in thinking and part of the reason the genius of UW fell to the wayside

McCraven knows the liberal mainstream media will come to his rescue.

I have no issue noting his support of Brennan, BHO and Clinton is a betrayal of the Armed Forces and the Constitution...a 4 star absolutely knows the Communism is the enemy of our republic......then again under leaders like him I can see how the SOF world became the whipping boy of the SJW's.

Trump is the best thing that happened to this country a mans man who rules with strength and fears nothing....BTW his intellect and strategic thinking is way beyond our military leaders his endorsement of Pelosi for speaker of the house is human chess 101 LOL....2 more years of her stupidity knowing how fractured the Dems are this is an amazing move.....ADM McRaven s so far over his intellectual head it isn't funny he can take his stupid "relative firepower" what a genius idea duh but we still prefer 3-1 fire superiority if available.....and go back to eating paint chips

[Team Sergeant]

Personally I think Adm. William McRaven is one reality show away from wearing women's clothing, cutting off his dick and moving in with bruce jenner.

Adm. William McRaven, nothing but a bottom-feeding left-wing shill.




(And when the military or any military association tells you its a bad idea to use your military creds in politics tell'em to fuck off. These O-7's 8's 9's etc have been playing politicians for decades.)

[tom kelly]

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY, AT LEAST BRUCE JENNER WAS A OLYMPIC ATHELETE, The admiral was and is an average sailor....my opinion. tom kelly

[rsdengler]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Personally I think Adm. William McRaven is one reality show away from wearing women's clothing, cutting off his dick and moving in with bruce jenner.

Adm. William McRaven, nothing but a bottom-feeding left-wing shill.




(And when the military or any military association tells you its a bad idea to use your military creds in politics tell'em to fuck off. These O-7's 8's 9's etc have been playing politicians for decades.)

HaaaaaWaaaHaaa....LOL....too funny, yep you have to say it like it is......Adm. McRaven needs to stay retired; that means STFU and decide if those stilettos he bought will go with that sequined dress.....