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Old 11-20-2016, 14:03   #1
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Tranny Marine

She just wants to be one of the boys. Two quick questions:

1. Does this mean male PT standards?
2. Do y'all think Trump and his new SECDEF will put an end to this?

A transgender Marine comes out, tests military's new policy
By Emanuella Grinberg, CNN
Updated 2104 GMT (0504 HKT) November 19, 2016

(CNN)Lance Cpl. Aaron Wixson is looking forward to the day he can attend the annual Marine Corps Ball in the outfit he feels most comfortable in.

Last Friday, he wore female Dress Blues to the gala at Pechanga Resort and Casino in Temecula, California. But next year, Wixson hopes to trade in the female uniform for the iconic Dress Blues worn by men -- the gender he identifies with even though it's not the one on his birth certificate.
"I will feel that I am finally seen as who I really am," Wixson told CNN, going public for the first time with his gender transition, which is ongoing. "I will be 100 times more comfortable, physically and mentally -- which will allow me to really enjoy the ball."
He's getting closer to his goal thanks to the new military policy that allows transgender people to serve openly. The 20-year-old field artillery radar operator is one of the first transgender Marines to be formally recognized by his command as a man.

The rest of the article here: http://cnn.it/2g81kgC
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Old 11-20-2016, 15:25   #2
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I hope and pray that this asinine policy that allows this to happen can be reversed. it's time for common sense to come back in regards to our military. DRAIN the SWAMP President Trump!
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Old 11-20-2016, 15:29   #3
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. But next year, Wixson hopes to trade in the female uniform for the iconic Dress Blues worn by men -- the gender he identifies with even though it's not the one on his birth certificate.
"I will feel that I am finally seen as who I really am," Wixson told CNN, going public for the first time with his gender transition, which is ongoing. "I will be 100 times more comfortable, physically and mentally -- which will allow me to really enjoy the ball."
They all seem to say that and then, once they have changed, find that it is not really what they want either.

I think there is a reason that their suicide rates are so high.

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Old 11-20-2016, 16:28   #4
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i wish HER the very best. i hope SHE eventually finds happiness within the skin that SHE was born with. i hope HER parents are proud of their DAUGHTER
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:50   #5
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i wish HER the very best. i hope SHE eventually finds happiness within the skin that SHE was born with. i hope HER parents are proud of their DAUGHTER
Such hate speech.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:55   #6
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Vignettes for upcoming training:

Vignettes:

Lieutenant Marty changed his gender marker in the Service personnel data system from female to male after completing an approved transition plan. Lieutenant Marty has not had sex reassignment surgery as part of the transition plan and is working with his MMP on a plan to start a family. Lieutenant
Marty approached his commanding officer a few weeks ago and mentioned
he was pregnant.

It is the semi-annual swim test and a female to male transgender Service member who has fully transitioned, but did not undergo surgical change, would like to wear a male swimsuit for the test with no shirt or other top coverage.

Following her transition (which did not include any sex reassignment surgery) and gender marker change in the Service personnel data system from male to female, Petty Officer Kelleher was assigned to a Coast Guard cutter and provided quarters in female berthing. Shortly after her arrival aboard the cutter, several females in Petty Officer Kelleher's berthing area complained to the Command Senior Chief about being uncomfortable around Petty Officer Kelleher as she still has male genitalia. The Command Senior Chief approached the commanding officer with these complaints hoping to achieve some sort
of resolution.
- An initial approach to the complaints may entail meeting with the Command Senior Chief as well as the complaining members of the berthing area to determine the exact nature of their complaints. You should inform them that Petty Officer Kelleher's assignment to female berthing is required regardless of her physical appearance and that their lack of comfort is not reason to prevent Petty Officer Kelleher from residing in female berthing or make her subject to treatment different from others.

A Service member has been undergoing transition for the last three months, from male to female, and his gender marker has not been changed in the Service's personnel data system. Only the immediate chain of command is aware of this transition. The Service member desires to attend an off-post unit event dressed as a female.

A Service member has been undergoing transition for the last three months, from male to female, and has not yet changed his gender marker in the Service's personnel database system. The unit is aware of his transition. He is preparing to begin his RLE after duty hours (i.e., wearing make-up, wigs, and female clothing) and would like to do so in his barracks room, unit day room, and
on the military installation. He is still using the male facilities.
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Old 12-02-2016, 12:16   #7
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I know the rules of the site encourage discussion, but...

HOLY F****NG S**T, WHAT THE F**K?!?!

(Sorry, had a 20 year relapse into my AD SFC days)
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Old 12-02-2016, 16:12   #8
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Vignettes for upcoming training:

Vignettes:

Lieutenant Marty changed his gender marker in the Service personnel data system from female to male after completing an approved transition plan. Lieutenant Marty has not had sex reassignment surgery as part of the transition plan and is working with his MMP on a plan to start a family. Lieutenant
Marty approached his commanding officer a few weeks ago and mentioned
he was pregnant.

It is the semi-annual swim test and a female to male transgender Service member who has fully transitioned, but did not undergo surgical change, would like to wear a male swimsuit for the test with no shirt or other top coverage.

Following her transition (which did not include any sex reassignment surgery) and gender marker change in the Service personnel data system from male to female, Petty Officer Kelleher was assigned to a Coast Guard cutter and provided quarters in female berthing. Shortly after her arrival aboard the cutter, several females in Petty Officer Kelleher's berthing area complained to the Command Senior Chief about being uncomfortable around Petty Officer Kelleher as she still has male genitalia. The Command Senior Chief approached the commanding officer with these complaints hoping to achieve some sort
of resolution.
- An initial approach to the complaints may entail meeting with the Command Senior Chief as well as the complaining members of the berthing area to determine the exact nature of their complaints. You should inform them that Petty Officer Kelleher's assignment to female berthing is required regardless of her physical appearance and that their lack of comfort is not reason to prevent Petty Officer Kelleher from residing in female berthing or make her subject to treatment different from others.

A Service member has been undergoing transition for the last three months, from male to female, and his gender marker has not been changed in the Service's personnel data system. Only the immediate chain of command is aware of this transition. The Service member desires to attend an off-post unit event dressed as a female.

A Service member has been undergoing transition for the last three months, from male to female, and has not yet changed his gender marker in the Service's personnel database system. The unit is aware of his transition. He is preparing to begin his RLE after duty hours (i.e., wearing make-up, wigs, and female clothing) and would like to do so in his barracks room, unit day room, and
on the military installation. He is still using the male facilities.
GEN Mattis the next SECDEF will end this insanity fix this stupidity, he should be kicked out to pursue his mental sickness and twisted debauchery on his own dime. Send him where discipline and camaraderie don't matter off to the kingdom of California with thee.
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Old 12-02-2016, 13:03   #9
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Oxymoron.......just had to get that out there
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Old 12-02-2016, 14:36   #10
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A few more vignettes ...

You've just attended DoD mandated transgender education training and you are returning to your automobile when you realize that you have lost all situational awareness due to your confused state; you regain your senses when you hear the air-brakes of the semi-truck lock up as he skids towards you........

You have just been released from the hospital after walking into traffic on the way out of your first session of transgender awareness training when you see the female to male transgender service member that had fully transitioned, but did not undergo surgical change (the one that went topless during the swim test) playing beach volleyball with a male to female transgender service member that has not undergone surgical change but has completed the gender marker change in the Service personnel data system from male to female. The male to female transgender service member that has not undergone surgical change but has completed the gender marker change in the personnel data system is not wearing a shirt. You realize that the 'man' without a shirt has breast while the 'woman' without a shirt does not - this reminds you of Tom Cruise's oddly scripted homoerotic volleyball scene in the movie 'Top Gun' and while your mind is wandering you step in front of an LMTV.........

You have just recovered from several months of critical care repairing your facial bones after being hit by the LMTV; you have been medically boarded out of the army and while you are at the John Cochran VA Medical Center in St. Louis getting dental work to fix your broken teeth you realize that the dentist is a female to male transgender service member that had fully transitioned, but did not undergo surgical change and that 'he' is not wearing a bra...

While you are looking at the "male" dentist's huge, bra-less chest, you hear a CNN news report that says over 1800 patients at the John Cochran VA Medical Center may have contracted hepatitis B, hepatitis C and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) after visiting the medical center for dental work...


You have stopped taking your pain pills because you believe that the events of the last several months of your life are just an opioid induced hallucination...
The pain wont go away and you can't wake up from your 'dream'......
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Old 12-04-2016, 14:29   #11
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I have never seen a transgender Pt. Without other comorbid psych diagnosis's, ever. That is a problem. It is delusional, they want to be something they are not and play pretend, that is not normal.
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Old 12-04-2016, 14:53   #12
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I have never seen a transgender Pt. Without other comorbid psych diagnosis's, ever. That is a problem. It is delusional, they want to be something they are not and play pretend, that is not normal.
I concur! That has been my experience also.
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Old 11-20-2016, 17:05   #13
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They all seem to say that and then, once they have changed, find that it is not really what they want either.

I think there is a reason that their suicide rates are so high.

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The rates are higher for those who have undergone the transition than those who remain "intact" so to say. The fact remains you are never changing your gender, your DNA and other markers remain male/female. Argue as they may that they "feel" better the suicide rates beg to differ.

I do wonder how they can justify it as far as standards for MTF, they will always be stronger even after hormonal replacement. Interested in the time/resources that will be wasted on this farce.
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Old 11-20-2016, 17:42   #14
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None of this has any business detracting from the mission. People in these battles are focused on themselves, so much so that you already know without batting an eye that you don't want that in your foxhole or holding up your training schedule for whatever it is they need.

Whats more, is they end up being shuffled into leg army, taking college, and then managing your branch positions from some LEG garrison job because instead of going to war, they went to the brownnose side on the already fatted shelf of dumbf****s that believe the Military to be some kind of petri dish where they may dump their bacteria anywhere they want with no consequence.

I have empathy, but there are some jobs you should just not take if you have a battle inside as rife within the 1/4 of your life that is your identity. It is a personality disorder and not only are you confused, but your teammates will be doubly so.

It assisinates authority and good order and it will never work even if your hearts wish it to be so.

If we do not get sanity back into the Pentagon....

I see dead people.
I see them everywhere.


Send in Mattis.
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Old 11-20-2016, 21:03   #15
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CNN referring to a biological female as a he. Bizarro world.
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