09-17-2016, 22:42
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And...Manhattan
Something, intentional according to NYPD, goes high order in Manhattan. They won't call it terrorism...yet. However, 29 people at the blast site were injured.
Zero, none, nil, officials are linking this to the Seaside Park, New Jersey bomb that went off along the route of the Marine 5K charity run.
Personally, I am tremendously relieved. I would hate to think that two bombings on the American east coast, not that far apart, might possibly be part of a coordinated terrorist plot.
I should probably ignore that CNN report (live right now) that says LE has recovered a pressure cooker device in Manhattan with a cellphone attached.
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09-17-2016, 23:05
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Thankfully, it is so much more difficult to make a bomb/IED composed of high explosives in the United States.
Most of us here know the difference between a kitchen sink device (yes, Boston was that), and something much more potent. New Jersey and NYC were kitchen sink size blasts. As to the trigger, I don't know yet.
So far these turds aren't able to take out entire blocks (like the police did against MOVE in 1985).
Wait, NYPD hasn't called this terrorism. Sorry for being an alarmist.
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09-17-2016, 23:10
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09-17-2016, 23:16
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Thankfully the religion of peace, or religion of anything, has trouble obtaining HE here in the US. We are very unlikely to face a VBIED full of military grade explosives. However, I do believe the sophistication of the triggers will be the ultimate clue as to the foreign terrorism connection.
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09-17-2016, 23:25
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We are very unlikely to face a VBIED full of military grade explosives.
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I was talking to my wife tonight about exactly that. All of the on-the-horizon self driving vehicles will make great VBIED devices even with less sophisticated explosives. Plus, no video of who placed them. We clearly live in interesting times.
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09-17-2016, 23:33
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I was talking to my wife tonight about exactly that. All of the on-the-horizon self driving vehicles will make great VBIED devices even with less sophisticated explosives. Plus, no video of who placed them. We clearly live in interesting times.
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More dependency on technology leads to more vulnerability.
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09-17-2016, 23:36
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I was talking to my wife tonight about exactly that. All of the on-the-horizon self driving vehicles will make great VBIED devices even with less sophisticated explosives. Plus, no video of who placed them. We clearly live in interesting times.
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PSM, that is so unlikely as to not even concern yourself about. Even with today's bombings (NYC & NJ), the most likely event the average American will encounter is street crime.
A sophisticated VBIED would be the MDCOA, or Most Dangerous Course of Action. However, it is also the least likely COA. Tesla is not going to take out your block.
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09-19-2016, 11:47
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Quote:
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Thankfully the religion of peace, or religion of anything, has trouble obtaining HE here in the US. We are very unlikely to face a VBIED full of military grade explosives. However, I do believe the sophistication of the triggers will be the ultimate clue as to the foreign terrorism connection.
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Good thing that southern border is so tight. Don't have to worry about anyone smuggling HE into the country.
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09-17-2016, 23:19
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How scared our communist, eh, I mean government officials are, to warn people of terrorism type acts so they might take action to prepare themselves for the possibility of follow on actions. What a phobia they are placing on the citizenry!
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