12-03-2015, 11:07
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Defense Secretary to Open All Combat Jobs to Women
I know this has been an ongoing discussion here, but now it is official...
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Defense Secretary Ash Carter will order the military to open all combat jobs to women, and is giving the armed services until Jan. 1 to submit plans to make the historic change, a senior defense official has told the Associated Press.
Carter's announcement is expected later Thursday.
It rebuffs arguments from the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman that the Marine Corps should be allowed to exclude women from certain front-line combat jobs, citing studies showing that mixed-gender units aren't as capable as all-male units.
The defense official said all the services will have to begin putting plans in place by April 1.
The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
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LA Times Article
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12-03-2015, 11:17
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I eagerly await the establishment of quotas when they don't get enough volunteers.
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12-03-2015, 11:19
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Does this also come with mandatory enrollment for selective service? 
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12-03-2015, 11:40
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"In place by April 1st"
Intentional or unintentional joke?
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12-03-2015, 12:36
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Only in this administration can you produce factual evidence that something can not and will not work, and still be superseded.
By the 4th SECDEF none the less.
I love how Panetta is now speaking out about the administration..........
Where were you 3 years ago when you could have actually done something about it, or at least blew the lid off of it.
The fix is in...........we are a dying breed gents.
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12-03-2015, 12:55
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Originally Posted by Mills
Only in this administration can you produce factual evidence that something can not and will not work, and still be superseded.
By the 4th SECDEF none the less.
I love how Panetta is now speaking out about the administration..........
Where were you 3 years ago when you could have actually done something about it, or at least blew the lid off of it.
The fix is in...........we are a dying breed gents.
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Panetta doe not have to depend on Barry for a check anymore, which seems to be the major reason O's underlings are afraid to call an ace an ace and a spade a spade. What will O's last frontier be, he has been on a feeding frenzy that seems to have no end in regards to decimating our country.
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12-03-2015, 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flagg
"In place by April 1st"
Intentional or unintentional joke?
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1 April was my date of rank when I was promoted to CPT. Never heard the end of it. This is an even bigger joke.
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12-03-2015, 15:30
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Originally Posted by Pericles
1 April was my date of rank when I was promoted to CPT. Never heard the end of it. This is an even bigger joke.
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An even bigger joke it that it's my mother-in-law's birthday. 
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12-04-2015, 15:53
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Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc
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Concur. That should have been included with the program statement, right up front. Wonder why they left that out 
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12-03-2015, 22:42
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I have four daughters, I consider myself a modern man. The fairest way this liberal policy should be implemented is economically. Screening/Privilege, then race/economic should receive front line assignments, tip of the spear. Chelsea Clinton pulling point....
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12-04-2015, 20:00
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Full integration of Women in the Army.
Well, if the SECDEF is directing the full integration of women in the Armed Forces, they might as well start implementing that all female U.S. citizens be required to register with Selective Service between the age of 18 through 25. Right? Why wasn't that statement in the tri-signed document?
It seems like the wolf pack of 4 star general officers are not advising these civilians accurately or the civilians are not listening to their concerns. So far only a marine general has voiced his concerns with this action.
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12-21-2015, 17:24
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SF Candidate
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Clip...
This clip reminded me this post...
Family guy - women in the workplace, personnel training
Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MRUbC32loA4
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12-21-2015, 23:51
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Has there been a female applicant yet? I know the government has interest in a female being tabbed, but where is this outcry of woman wanting to do it? When it comes to actually signing a contract and attending selection, I don't see too many lines of women forming.
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12-22-2015, 09:40
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Originally Posted by DanHeller88
Has there been a female applicant yet? I know the government has interest in a female being tabbed, but where is this outcry of woman wanting to do it? When it comes to actually signing a contract and attending selection, I don't see too many lines of women forming.
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April is the first class possible. Early signals are there are lots of West Pointers who want to "try out". Also many non SF officers are actively recruiting women in SOF and former CSTs to go...
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01-05-2016, 07:29
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Of course we are all equal. How many men got this kind of treatment.
http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/01/do...emale-rangers/
I would REALLY like to know what is going on in the Ranger course that started yesterday.
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