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Old 10-01-2015, 06:56   #1
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USSOCOM Safty Message - Eotech

Anyone experience these problems? or even aware of them?

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USSOCOM Issues Safety of Use Message for EOTech Enhanced Combat Optical Sights – Plus More Goings On

Over the past few weeks, three separate issues have come to our attention regarding EOTech’s line of Holographic Weapon Sights (HWS). While we initially thought they weren’t related as they came up one by one, we realized they were all connected once we had looked into all three. Consequently, we believe they should be presented together, along with the source documentation.

Safety Of Use Message Issued

Although it’s the last one we uncovered, we’ll begin with the most glaring piece of information. On 14 September, the SOF Weapons Program Management Office at NSWC Crane released a Safety of Use Message regarding issues with EOTech’s Enhanced Combat Optical Sights (ECOS), which is how they refer to HWS. This certainly caught our attention as the PMO is responsible for USSOCOM weapons. That message ultimately serves as the linchpin, tying together the other two issues we’ll soon address.

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Old 10-01-2015, 10:45   #2
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Anyone experience these problems? or even aware of them?

I had always noticed that the windage & elevation adjustments weren't a precise fractional movement, but no one ever had problems getting zeroed, or ever related to me a problem with maintaining zero. Not getting into specifics, but my guys were in some places with pretty extreme climates.

The only reliability problems ever noted were a few internal power and battery pack issues on the older "N" battery and AA battery models. It was the main reason we went to the XPS.
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Old 10-01-2015, 13:44   #3
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I have a first GEN L-3 MPO (557) 4X-Magnifier. (Which is by mil name SU-213/PEQ)

Never experienced a problem with it. It is for the most part what it is. A combat weapons sight that does exceptionally well at CQB. Also, has been and remains accurate enough to ping 10" steel out to 300M having been on and off the gun (RTZ). Battery life is okay, I never trust my life to a questionable battery.

I'm happy with mine, but I don't go shooting anywhere near the extremes listed in the SOUM. Zero has not been "knocked out" and the "Parallax" issue isn't an issue.

Now if I could ever afford that AN-PVS/14 I'd know if the NVG system worked.

I read that whole thing even all the comments. There will be haters and those that don't. I don't care if the mechanical adjustments are "close" it's not a precision optic. I'm not overly worried that it "might be" at worst, two-inches off POA at 50-yds above or below 122*f -40*f, I don't work in those environments.

Are there better? Yes and no. All have some trade off. Knowing this info is good but not enough to trade in. I have illuminated precision scopes, AIMPOINTS, Red-Dot HWS "Quick Sights" and traditional high quality precision reticle cross-hair scopes. They are all better than I am now and probably then too. It fits a "niche" and does it well.
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Old 10-14-2015, 17:30   #4
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Safety message dated 14 Sept 2015

Anyone read the original warning issued by NSWC Crain, issued mid August? This is becoming an issue for federal LEOs and FLETC. Trying to get ahead of it. If you any info please side bar.
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thermal drift

I have not followed the EoTech issue much.

For the average soldier and marine, would it help to just re-zero when a temperature change happens? I know in some cases this would not work due to time and mission. Thanks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-rifle-sights/


U.S. Special Operations forces are using rifle sights that are supposed to help shooters accurately hit their targets but instead have a defect, acknowledged by the manufacturer, that potentially endangers the lives of service members in combat, according to court records and military officials.
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I have not followed the EoTech issue much.

For the average soldier and marine, would it help to just re-zero when a temperature change happens? I know in some cases this would not work due to time and mission. Thanks.
Yeah, maybe we could implement a "time-out" with the enemy so our soldiers can re-zero when necessary........
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