07-28-2015, 13:56
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Another idiot General enters the arena on gun-control.
It's no wonder our military fails and no plan survives first contact before someone lower in the ranks steps up to find success.
Check out this article from USA TODAY:
Honore: America's in denial about gun culture
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ture/30764255/
This is remarkable and truly his best statement in regards to what he opined on.
Honore said he doesn't know what steps government should take tighten controls on carrying guns — "I'm not smart enough for that," he said — but he said mass shootings "are scarring our country."
He doesn't see the irony in this -
"The best place for weapons when you're not in the field is to be locked up in the garrison," Honore' said. "Our biggest problem before Desert Storm was (soldiers) accidentally firing their weapons, and they're trained.
They were trained to do what, clean them for the millionth time, put them away under lock and key and an "ARMED" armorer?
What would Gen. Von Steuben, think of the Continental Army going home without their rifles?
And we'll, I guess he forgets to mention that unless it was the Ammo Depot the guards had no bullets -
" I don't think it's a good idea to arm military at the recruitment offices or to have civilians there with guns," Honore said. "That's the job of law enforcement. On our bases, yes, we guard our gates and our bases, but not at the recruitment offices."
Must be nice to live in Command Billets and have MPs on constant patrol...it shades the color of your glasses.
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07-28-2015, 14:29
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I thought he was the assclown that was in charge of the crap that went down in Katrina. The article confirms it.
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07-28-2015, 14:59
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I thought he was the assclown that was in charge of the crap that went down in Katrina. The article confirms it.
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If I had had anything to do with Katrina (in a leadership position) I'd still be hiding in my basement drinking cheap scotch and warm beer...somewhere Panama City, and no the one in Florida!
He must have been Mr. Browns, left-hand-man!!!
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07-28-2015, 15:49
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I sat with him several years ago. He told me that he would never let his people shoot a "poor person" for trashing a jewelery store, liquor store or for stealing from the "rich" An hour later he spoke to a group that was attending an insurance training class. IMO he is the same kind of Liberal as Westley Clark. Nothing he said in the class changed my mind.
I had seen him in NOLA after Katrine, he was leading around an Army of reporters and I was working as an insurance adjuster. The people that lost their inventor to the savages were for the most part middle class.
He may be positioning for a political appointment.
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07-28-2015, 18:16
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
That brings up an interesting point, should soldiers shoot looters? That seems like it might be going a bit too far to me. I mean if you are the jewelry store owner and someone is robbing your store, and you shoot them, that's probably a straight ticket to prison. Only if they are threatening your life directly can you shoot them.
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Actually, it depends on the state. You can shoot them here in Texas, if it is your store or the store owner asked you to look out for it.
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07-28-2015, 19:27
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The same guy who, when he was CONUSA CG, mandated immersion training for Soldiers mobilizing & deploying; move with it, live with it - all.the.time.
He & Clark should go off & have a cup of coffee together somewhere; like Shemya, maybe.
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07-29-2015, 07:21
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
That brings up an interesting point, should soldiers shoot looters? That seems like it might be going a bit too far to me. I mean if you are the jewelry store owner and someone is robbing your store, and you shoot them, that's probably a straight ticket to prison. Only if they are threatening your life directly can you shoot them.
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Shoot looters?
Not me.
Not becase it's right and that citizens property that is not being taken to save life or limb doesnt deserve better protection, from opportunistic predators, but because it's not worth the risk of being hung out to dry and prosecuted.
Have a nice day and enjoy your new necklace.
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07-29-2015, 08:02
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Originally Posted by abc_123
Shoot looters?
Not me.
Not becase it's right and that citizens property that is not being taken to save life or limb doesnt deserve better protection, from opportunistic predators, but because it's not worth the risk of being hung out to dry and prosecuted.
Have a nice day and enjoy your new necklace.
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With the current state if this country I agree with you. There was a time when lawless savages were not allowed to run wild. It shouldn't have been necessary to send the 82od to NOLA, but between the Mayor, Governor and a poorly run police department I don't have a good answer.
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07-28-2015, 14:40
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Sounds like he is stuck on stupid.
Pat
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07-28-2015, 16:17
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Originally Posted by PSM
Sounds like he is stuck on stupid.
Pat
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He sounds like a future politician, maybe he and Wes Clark can team up.
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