Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia

[Paslode]

Over the past several years there have been a wide array of topics on DADT, Gay Marriage, Transgenders, the DSM and the normalization of perversions.

http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...archid=3677227

And one consistent theme is they will never legalize or normalize pedophilia like they have the other former perversions.......

Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia
Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change

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http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan...hiles-20130115


Looks like the NAMBLA lobby is making inroads into normalcy and victim status.

[Box]

"IT can never happen in the USA..."
"...we're too well informed"


The problem is, we are also too stupid as a nation to accept that Overtons window is real.

[tonyz]

Pedophelia = abomination

Research that "many researchers..."

[craigepo]

There is a good reason these people are put on lifetime supervision when convicted.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

I delt with these animals in prison and can tell you I have always believed there was something wrong with them from birth and that will NEVER change no matter what liberal therapy you make them go through. It is not normal to be attracted to a child its not like anyone ever had to tell me it's wrong it is just not normal. They are like rabid dogs and need to be put down.

Concur 100%!!! And we should feed their remains to the pigs.

Holly

[sg1987]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

One irony I do not get is why conservatives and liberals view homosexuality and pedophilia in an inverse fashion. Conservatives will argue that homosexuality is a choice, implying that the person can be changed, and then also argue that pedophilia is not a choice, that that is how the person was born. But then the liberal (or some liberals anyway) does the precise opposite, they argue that homosexuality is a natural inclination and that pedophilia is something that can be fixed through therapy. IMO, I think they are both natural inclinations, the difference though is that with pedophilia, the person is harming a child, so they have to live with their urges and avoid acting on them.

I do believe that there can be good pedophiles in the sense of people who are morally good, but who just for whatever reason are sexually attracted to children. However, they have to avoid ever acting on the urges.



I would take issue that all of these are "perversions." I believe that some people are just born with something wired differently. I also see nothing wrong with the normalization of such behaviors so long as they are not harming anybody else.



Oh I believe that in some liberal areas they will most definitely try to either legalize it or give lightweight punishments to such people. But pedophilia is different from transgenders, homosexuals, etc...in that it is not adults, it involves children, which is a whole different ballgame.

YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

One irony I do not get is why conservatives and liberals view homosexuality and pedophilia in an inverse fashion. Conservatives will argue that homosexuality is a choice, implying that the person can be changed, and then also argue that pedophilia is not a choice, that that is how the person was born. But then the liberal (or some liberals anyway) does the precise opposite, they argue that homosexuality is a natural inclination and that pedophilia is something that can be fixed through therapy. IMO, I think they are both natural inclinations, the difference though is that with pedophilia, the person is harming a child, so they have to live with their urges and avoid acting on them.

I do believe that there can be good pedophiles in the sense of people who are morally good, but who just for whatever reason are sexually attracted to children. However, they have to avoid ever acting on the urges.



I would take issue that all of these are "perversions." I believe that some people are just born with something wired differently. I also see nothing wrong with the normalization of such behaviors so long as they are not harming anybody else.



Oh I believe that in some liberal areas they will most definitely try to either legalize it or give lightweight punishments to such people. But pedophilia is different from transgenders, homosexuals, etc...in that it is not adults, it involves children, which is a whole different ballgame.

If you go way, way back you will a reference to the Trojan Couch, it was something NMAP brought up, which essentially was that pervert academics banded together to normalize Homosexuality and that would be used as a Trojan Horse to normalize other perversions.


One more point....

Chuck Manson, Jeffrey Dalmer, John Wayne Gasey, Pol Pot and Hitler were all just born with something and wired a bit differently....

[blacksmoke]

Lobotomy for first offense.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by blacksmoke

Lobotomy for first offense.

One way to put a dent in recidivism.

[BoomerUSMC]

Originally Posted by Paslode

One more point....

Chuck Manson, Jeffrey Dalmer, John Wayne Gasey, Pol Pot and Hitler were all just born with something and wired a bit differently....

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

You can't compare homosexuals with mass murderers. I am myself of the belief that homosexuality is something people are born into. As such, I see nothing wrong with normalizing it as it harms nobody.

I don't mean to speak for Paslode but his point was not a comparison. Using the phrase "they're just wired differently" sounds a lot like "that's just Manny being Manny". Manny's behavior was still that of an asshat.

We are all wired differently and we all have free will. Typically, as an individual, we will alter our behavior based on the rules and laws of society so that we are accepted into that society.

These days it seems that some want to force society to change their rules and laws and to force everyone to accept their deviant behavior as being normal. We're a nation of snowflakes.

[BoomerUSMC]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

What makes things like homosexuality deviant? IMO, it really is nobody's business how a person is unless it harms others.

That is certainly true enough and I have no issues with that way of thinking (it's the Libertarianism in me). My objection lies with the fact that those who endorse and partake of this behavior are forcing me to accept that behavior as normal. If I don't agree or like it then I must shut up and deal with it because my way of thinking is wrong.

Based on my faith, I actually do think this behavior is deviant and immoral although I don't go around proselytizing to gays and lesbians that they must change their behavior. IMHO - do what you gotta do but don't force me to accept it as normal.

It's nobody's business unless it harms others is correct, but that should work both ways. According to LGBT groups my opinion is wrong and must be stamped out, this is contrary to your statement. So it's live and let live unless you don't agree with us. Liberalism in a nutshell.

Pedophilia, however.....that's a whole other level of wrong.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

I do believe that there can be good pedophiles in the sense of people who are morally good, but who just for whatever reason are sexually attracted to children. However, they have to avoid ever acting on the urges.

A friend of ours was just sentenced to 25 years for acting on his urges. He's 50, so the sentence is basically a life sentence. The judge, in fact, told him that at his age he was considered set in his predilections and that rehab was not likely. Thus the long sentence.

It's been eight months since he was caught. I'm still trying to reconcile the morally good man I know with the monster others have labeled him. I don't think I ever will.

Susan

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Requiem

A friend of ours was just sentenced to 25 years for acting on his urges. He's 50, so the sentence is basically a life sentence. The judge, in fact, told him that at his age he was considered set in his predilections and that rehab was not likely. Thus the long sentence.

It's been eight months since he was caught. I'm still trying to reconcile the morally good man I know with the monster others have labeled him. I don't think I ever will.

Susan

To be caught at 50 and be able to hide this side for so long makes you wonder how many other things someone like that was able to deceive his friends about. How do we keep our children and society safe from those who would act on those urges at the costs of a child with a still developing brain while concealing the action.?

[Joker]

Originally Posted by Requiem

A friend of ours was just sentenced to 25 years for acting on his urges. He's 50, so the sentence is basically a life sentence. The judge, in fact, told him that at his age he was considered set in his predilections and that rehab was not likely. Thus the long sentence.

It's been eight months since he was caught. I'm still trying to reconcile the morally good man I know with the monster others have labeled him. I don't think I ever will.

Susan

I do not know this man, but I am sorry to tell you that he is NOT a morally good man. How would you feel/think if he did this to your child (God forbid)?

[Sohei]

I have been investigating and arresting them for 26 years. From 16 to 84 years of age. They have every level of education and come from every type of employment...lawyers, plumbers, doctors, coaches, teachers, law enforcement officers.

To society...they were perceived as everyday, ordinary, and in many instances...outstanding citizens, BUT, what they did behind closed doors was known only to them and their victims...no one ever new but them. There is nothing honorable or moral about them.