08-13-2014, 05:09
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Ukraine says Russian aid convoy won't be let in
JMHO, but it looks like there are entirely too many fingers on too many triggers, and somebody is going fart and end up with a faux pas in their pants.
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Ukraine says Russian aid convoy won't be let in, denounces Moscow's 'cynicism'
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0GD0PA20140813
(Reuters) - Ukraine denounced the dispatch of a Russian humanitarian aid convoy to eastern Ukraine as an act of Russian cynicism on Wednesday and said it would not be allowed in.
The comments reflected suspicions in Kiev and Western capitals that passage of the convoy onto Ukrainian soil could turn into a covert military action to help pro-Russian separatists now losing ground to government forces.
"The level of Russian cynicism knows no bounds," Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said at a government meeting. "First they send tanks, Grad missiles and bandits who fire on Ukrainians and then they send water and salt."
Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said on his Facebook page: "No Putin 'humanitarian convoy' will be allowed across the territory of Kharkiv region. The provocation by a cynical aggressor will not be allowed on our territory."
Yatseniuk reiterated that any kind of humanitarian aid from the outside had to be organized under the auspices of the International Committee of the Red Cross.
It was not immediately clear if this was an outright rejection of the Russian aid, which was being taken by a convoy of 280 trucks down to the Ukrainian border on Wednesday, or a refusal to allow the Russian trucks onto Ukrainian territory.
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS
Ukraine said on Tuesday that the cargo would have to be unloaded from Russian trucks at the border and transferred under international Red Cross aegis onto other vehicles. The European Union (EU) said the contents would have to be scrutinized.
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08-13-2014, 06:12
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Is this really the only card Putin has left to play?
I mean.....the old, "we'll send in an aid convoy and hope you don't see the supplies for our 'advisers'".....trick.
What was he hoping to gain? Is he that deceived by his own intelligence complex or this desperate that he's just trying "stuff".
I'm honestly confused.
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08-13-2014, 06:26
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Originally Posted by Scimitar
Is this really the only card Putin has left to play?
I mean.....the old, "we'll send in an aid convoy and hope you don't see the supplies for our 'advisers'".....trick.
What was he hoping to gain? zis he either this deceived by his own intelligence complex or this desperate that he's just trying "stuff".
I'm honestly confused.
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I'm wondering if berry & vlad are trying to hook the UN into this pig-pen.
vlad : "if we offer aid(he he he), maybe we can get the UN to deliver it with protection??"
berry : "if the UN say I CAN PAY FOR AND DELIVER the aid, I can claim victory,, and create another mess to blame on BUSH and dump on hilbilly when she gets elected by the harry and the supreme proletariat??"
Just my $00.0002
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08-13-2014, 07:22
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Originally Posted by Scimitar
Is this really the only card Putin has left to play?
I mean.....the old, "we'll send in an aid convoy and hope you don't see the supplies for our 'advisers'".....trick.
What was he hoping to gain? zis he either this deceived by his own intelligence complex or this desperate that he's just trying "stuff".
I'm honestly confused.
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Watch that short little POS. He'll be loading up PRC LNG tankers from Crimea and selling them gas using a different currency than dollars.
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
I'm wondering if berry & vlad are trying to hook the UN into this pig-pen.
vlad : "if we offer aid(he he he), maybe we can get the UN to deliver it with protection??"
berry : "if the UN say I CAN PAY FOR AND DELIVER the aid, I can claim victory,, and create another mess to blame on BUSH and dump on hilbilly when she gets elected by the harry and the supreme proletariat??"
Just my $00.0002

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Wouldn't put anything past our Dear Leader for Life or Putin, but what if Vlad doesn't know what his generals are doing anymore. Could things be that screwed up?
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08-13-2014, 08:44
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Putin wants the Ukrainians to block the aid. This will escalate the crisis and allow him to intervene in the "humanitarian crisis" to "save" the poor downtrodden ethnic Russians.
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08-13-2014, 09:40
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Putin wants the Ukrainians to block the aid. This will escalate the crisis and allow him to intervene in the "humanitarian crisis" to "save" the poor downtrodden ethnic Russians.
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Like I've said to many already. Putin is playing master chess in Ukraine, while BHO is still learning how to play the game of checkers...he (Putin) is so many levels and moves ahead of this dumbass administration it's just pure luck if they get something right.
In the end, Putin will have achieved everything he wanted and the US and Kiev will say they won because Ukraine is now at the peace table and negotiations are taking place to restore trade and fuel deliveries to Europe.
Ultimately, Putin will have unfettered access to the Black Sea, and it will be business as usual.
JMHO
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