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Old 12-08-2004, 14:10   #1
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I'm not sure what type of law enforcement backround Quinn has but he certainly never did any covert ops! The Marshalls are right to protest as loud as possible since this type of silliness is going to get people killed. Once again an agency's potentates have a meeting, do not consult the troops about needs/wants or how to implement their idea, then come to a ridiculous decision and threaten anyone who does not conform. I'm at a loss.
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Old 12-08-2004, 14:14   #2
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If they don't wear a jacket, how are they covering their Gats?
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Old 12-08-2004, 14:16   #3
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Old 12-08-2004, 14:49   #4
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Mmm. Not the way I do it, but to each his own. I have flown a lot and I have yet to see just one man wearing a suit or sport jacket. Personally, I have no problem with this. These people have left guns laying in bathrooms and stuff. Maybe they need to get their chain yanked. Can't follow orders is a sign of a lack of discipline. I don't want to be on an airplane with an undisciplined air marshal. There's a reason people tend not to mess with FBI agents and Secret Service dudes. They should be allowed to wear overcoats in cold areas I think - I fail to see the reasoning behind that one.
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Old 12-09-2004, 02:30   #5
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Leaving weapons unsecured is both a training and discipline issue I agree. My approach is if your UC then act like it (how you carry, what you wear, your attitude, diction, etc). Nothing is more obvious to the bad guys than a "uniform" in that (or any really) enviornment. They did mention that there is a team concept with flight time. What if the TL thinks it's best to have one or two guys laying low while the others are in the proper dress? How much restrictions are placed upon team leaders, and if too much then why? Just a thought.
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Old 12-09-2004, 05:33   #6
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I know a couple of FAMs, both are prior mil and prior LEOs. For once the mass media articulated their thoughts correctly. As for the unsecured weapons... 10% rule applies, everyone has their dirtbags.
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