Anti government sentiment fuels fears of police killings

[mojaveman]

"There's a deep concern that there has been a measureable increase of violence against police officers, especially with firearms," said Rich Roberts, spokesman for the International Union of Police Associates. The anti-police movement "seems to feed off each other online," he said.


http://news.yahoo.com/online-rants-r...225012920.html

[ddoering]

Now, I wonder who could be responsible for the anti-government sentiment? Perhaps George Bush?

[Team Sergeant]

There are some seriously sick assholes out there online in "social" media.

Praising the random killing of police officers is very sick and if you read the article you'll see "Cop Block’s 780,000-plus Facebook fans", that's a very large number of sick assholes.

And speaking of sick assholes you'll also see "Mark Potok", an expert on extremism" more like a liberal left-wing self proclaimed expert on extremism and left-wing propaganda writer for the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I'm sure the "1100 anti-government" groups are not all anti-police groups. Anti-government does not equal anti-police, only morons would think that way or left-wing propaganda writers.........

And then there's facebook, promoting hate and even allowing large hate groups to thrive on its pages. I'm wondering if facebook ads targeting the government hate groups includes firearms, firearms training etc to those individuals. It's all about the greenbacks isn't it facebook.

[LarryW]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

There are some seriously sick assholes out there online in "social" media.

Praising the random killing of police officers is very sick and if you read the article you'll see "Cop Block’s 780,000-plus Facebook fans", that's a very large number of sick assholes.

And speaking of sick assholes you'll also see "Mark Potok", an expert on extremism" more like a liberal left-wing self proclaimed expert on extremism and left-wing propaganda writer for the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I'm sure the "1100 anti-government" groups are not all anti-police groups. Anti-government does not equal anti-police, only morons would think that way or left-wing propaganda writers.........

And then there's facebook, promoting hate and even allowing large hate groups to thrive on its pages. I'm wondering if facebook ads targeting the government hate groups includes firearms, firearms training etc to those individuals. It's all about the greenbacks isn't it facebook.

Your words are straight, TS. It's all about the money, and let truth and integrity be damned. Having "political capital", power over the uninformed (or appearing to) trumps all. Oughta have their own Hall of Shame. Expose the little pricked asshats for what they are.

[DIYPatriot]

This one hits close to home. We had a couple officers killed in the line of duty just across the bridge from downtown Memphis, in West Memphis, AR. The killers were located and gunned down in a walmart parking lot. They were part of an anti-govt group known as sovereign citizens. The West Memphis police chief is featured in this video. His son, Brandon Paudert, was one of the officers that died in the line of duty.

[ddoering]

How many of those 700,000 are actually leftists posting radical crap to prove how radical the right really is?

[Lan]

Originally Posted by ddoering

How many of those 700,000 are actually leftists posting radical crap to prove how radical the right really is?

My feeling exactly. Agree on all points TS.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

There are some seriously sick assholes out there online in "social" media.

Praising the random killing of police officers is very sick and if you read the article you'll see "Cop Block’s 780,000-plus Facebook fans", that's a very large number of sick assholes.

And speaking of sick assholes you'll also see "Mark Potok", an expert on extremism" more like a liberal left-wing self proclaimed expert on extremism and left-wing propaganda writer for the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I'm sure the "1100 anti-government" groups are not all anti-police groups. Anti-government does not equal anti-police, only morons would think that way or left-wing propaganda writers.........

And then there's facebook, promoting hate and even allowing large hate groups to thrive on its pages. I'm wondering if facebook ads targeting the government hate groups includes firearms, firearms training etc to those individuals. It's all about the greenbacks isn't it facebook.

As usual TS Sir, you are spot on!

Facebook and other "social" media sites seem to have this allure....that is, if you were not raised by a father who worked on the internet, before it was "the" internet. My Dad instilled in me back in the early '90's a deep understanding of just what exactly the world wide web is, and who is on it.

Won't ever find me on any of those sites. I prefer to take the sage advice given to me, "and keep better company!" Which is why PS.com is the only site visited regularly by my camp, period.

Any killing of Our Brave Law Enforcement officers is not only sick, it is cowardly, and wrong!

Holly

[Golf1echo]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

And then there's facebook, promoting hate and even allowing large hate groups to thrive on its pages. I'm wondering if facebook ads targeting the government hate groups includes firearms, firearms training etc to those individuals. It's all about the greenbacks isn't it facebook.

Perhaps that is more of a "Cultural Revolution"?

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Golf1echo

Perhaps that is more of a "Cultural Revolution"?

May I ask wth that means? Really?

Holly

[Golf1echo]

Originally Posted by echoes

May I ask wth that means? Really?

Holly

From 1966 - 1976 in various forms, Mao Zedong's China experienced " The Cultural Revolution". I reference it in regards to the Facebook comment because as part of that revolution people were enabled to express themselves and their beliefs more freely, that proved to be the undoing of many...if their expressed ideas turned out to be different from the Communist Party it turned out.

I'm glad you asked because I completely concur with TS opinion of the depraved parts of society addressed in the first part of the post. Law Enforcement is the thin line serving us against that depravity.

Political persuasions toward smaller, sustaining, and responsible government are quite different than the other...

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by mojaveman

"There's a deep concern that there has been a measureable increase of violence against police officers, especially with firearms," said Rich Roberts, spokesman for the International Union of Police Associates. The anti-police movement "seems to feed off each other online," he said.

Well....shit like this does not help the public perception....LINK

Green Bay -

Green Bay Police have cleared Officer Derek Wicklund in an internal investigation into his use of force in an arrest in April.

Youtube video of incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIhueN-vL-M

Full report (go to page 5 for description of action): LINK

Vertically stuns.....decentralizes.....directs his right hand ....

[wpd654]

Use of force rarely looks good on film. The camera lenses gives a much wider perspective of the incident than the officer sees. In this video the suspect is obviously non-compliant and the report articulates probable cause that he was obstructing another officer from taking someone into custody.

The suspect and officer appeared fairly evenly matched in size and strength. Even when the suspect was on his back he was not effectively in custody. The officer did a great job of delivering strikes to the suspect causing him to turn away so he could be maneuvered onto his stomach. Once he was secured the strikes stopped and the applicating of force was over. That is as clean as it gets with a combative person at bar close. If my wife called the police for an intruder breaking into my house I would want that officer to respond.

Thanks for this thread. I showed the West Memphis video at roll call yesterday.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by wpd654

Use of force rarely looks good on film. The camera lenses gives a much wider perspective of the incident than the officer sees. In this video the suspect is obviously non-compliant and the report articulates probable cause that he was obstructing another officer from taking someone into custody.

The suspect and officer appeared fairly evenly matched in size and strength. Even when the suspect was on his back he was not effectively in custody. The officer did a great job of delivering strikes to the suspect causing him to turn away so he could be maneuvered onto his stomach. Once he was secured the strikes stopped and the applicating of force was over. That is as clean as it gets with a combative person at bar close. If my wife called the police for an intruder breaking into my house I would want that officer to respond.

Thanks for this thread. I showed the West Memphis video at roll call yesterday.

How about this one, then: http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/07/us/cal...otape-beating/

Going to fists seems to make it personal.

Pat

[wpd654]

In this example it is harder to determine appropriateness. The video reports the trooper received a call about this women on the freeway. The reason she was out there is unknown and the possibilities are many and the officer was alone at the time. The supervisor is right in that once the facts are known a determination can be made. When police agencies decline to give opinions about appropriateness of a police action, it's more about letting the government systems in place do their jobs than any ill will or wall of silence. That is my opinion and experience.

On a side note, I feel it will be the norm for officers to wear body-cams within the next five years or so. The perspective of the officer will be clearer as well as the intent of suspects.