06-10-2014, 13:01
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Iraq militants seize Mosul
So instead of AQ primarily being in A-stan, they are taking over an oil rich country to run their "business" out of.
Didn't some people tell Barry that this is EXACTLY what would happen when he pulled all our troops out?
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Iraq militants seize Mosul, causing thousands to flee
Iraq's prime minister has asked parliament to declare a state of emergency after Islamist militants effectively took control of Mosul and much of its province of Nineveh.
Nouri Maliki said "vital areas" of the city had been seized; some 150,000 people are believed to have fled.
Troops fled Mosul as hundreds of jihadists from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) overran it.
The US has said ISIS threatens not just Iraq, but the entire region.
State department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the situation in Mosul, Iraq's second city, was "extremely serious" and that the US supported "a strong, co-ordinated response to push back against this aggression".
Security sources also told the BBC on Tuesday that fierce fighting had erupted between Iraqi forces and ISIS fighters in a town called Rashad near Kirkuk, south-east of Mosul.
In a televised announced, Mr Maliki said that security forces had been placed on a state of "maximum alert".
He also said he had asked parliament to declare a state of emergency - which would broaden arrest powers and allow curfews to be imposed - and a "general mobilisation" of civilians.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27778112
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06-10-2014, 13:22
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Why would he listen He Knows All !!!!!
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06-10-2014, 13:41
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ISIS now has lots of US made equipment to use.....Fucking great....
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06-10-2014, 18:08
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A dress rehearsal? Bank on it. (The Golan Heights? Lebanon? Iraqi oilfields?)
The feeling that this is not the end is unavoidable.
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06-10-2014, 20:40
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And Obama says. " I didn't know there was a problem before I saw it in the news the same as you did."
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06-10-2014, 20:52
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Never served in OIF, but for my 10th Group Brothers. I know this is a salt on the wounds.
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06-11-2014, 14:08
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Originally Posted by Paslode
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What is the over/under on how long it takes to get those hawks and 58's across the border to Iran?
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06-11-2014, 16:13
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06-12-2014, 12:08
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Sunni vs Shia
imho, we never should have backed a Shia government aligned with Iran. Regardless how despotic. Saddam kept them in check.
BHO will not go back in unless the oil flow stops; and you can bet your cookies HRC is happy to have exited her position as SoS.
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06-12-2014, 12:30
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I don't see how anyone could have predicted this. After all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLteUGkvpOc
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06-12-2014, 12:49
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Call goes out in Baghdad for volunteers to sign and help fight the approaching ISIS.
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'They lined the streets with the decapitated heads of police and soldiers': Iraqi refugee reveals the horrors of the jihadi takeover as Baghdad vows to fight back
The decapitated heads of policeman and soldiers are lining the streets of Iraq's second biggest city, a displaced Iraqi woman has revealed today.
Speaking from a refugee camp to which she fled after jihadists from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) invaded the northern city of Mosul yesterday, the woman told of the horrific treatment meted out to those who do not bow to their rapidly expanding rule.
It would appear the occupation of Mosul was made easier by the fact a reported 30,000 soldiers fled, leaving behind tanks and firearms as just 800 fighters approached.
Less than 24 hours later the oil-rich city of Tikrit was captured by the militants, who then turned their attentions to the capital as it pushes ahead with its aim to overthrow the western-backed government as part of its goal to create an Islamic emirate spanning both sides of the Iraq-Syria border.
As jihadists now march on Baghdad after capturing swathes of northern Iraq male supporters of the government turned out in droves today to enlist and fight back.
They signed up in droves to fight against the advancing ISIS forces. The refugee woman, speaking to the BBC, told how the victims' heads were in placed in rows - a trademark, trophy-style execution favoured by ISIS militants.
Government forces have so far managed to stall the militants' remarkably rapid advance near Samarra, a city just 110km (68 miles) north of Baghdad and they are now bombing insurgent positions in and around Mosul - although 500,000 residents have fled, 1.3 million citizens remain in the city.
Meanwhile Iraqi Kurds seized control of the major northern oil city of Kirkuk today as the central government's army abandoned its posts. (Who was that asking about the Kurds?)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rol-north.html
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Map from link ....
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06-12-2014, 13:34
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US Evacuating Iraqi Airbase
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06-12-2014, 13:43
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GUY
If the goddamn Department of State would concentrate more on their fucking jobs instead of promoting LBGT agendas OCONUS; they would've seen this shit coming!
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BHO didn't want to stay in Iraq and the Iraqis didn't want American Military to stay soooooo, fark um. Knowing this Administration and what they would like for ROE would anyone want to go help Iraq at this point?
From a selfish stand point wouldn't it be better to let the Sunni and Shia kill each other?
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06-12-2014, 12:45
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Well this all tracks back, as usual, to a lack of coherence of goals and a misalignment of values. Do the US and Turkey have shared goals, alignment of values? What about the US and Pakistan? Answer: No and Hell no. You are exactly correct Guy, this shit was predictable. It's not like this is the first time we made the mistake!
dcrews46 you are correct IMO, we should have been supporting the Kurds (they reminded me very much of the Yards and the Bodes from another bygone era). But no, the DoS policy wonks say we need to preserve our relations with the "moderate" Turks and Pakistanis. Hmmm....who was it that denied us airbases in OEF and who was it that gave OBL and the Taliban safe harbor? Oh yeah, our valued allies Turkey and Pakistan.
So can someone please explain to me why the hell we keep making these same f'n mistakes with a few notable exceptions as Richard pointed out elsewhere.  The apparent level of stupidity/idiocy that is operating in our government is just absolutely incomprehensible to me.
Oh, and this is not just a problem within the present Admin., this shit is generational and transcends all political ideology so please don't make this a political argument - it really and truly is not.
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