Some Law Enforcement shootings...

Some law enforcement shootings.

http://connect.lawofficer.com/video/...n-and-shooting

http://videos.cleveland.com/plain-de..._shooting.html

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WZfqithVJM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_TquU4CYyA

In summary we can all agree that not everybody drops to the ground after being shot.

Anybody else remember this one? www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikDsWtNQzcg

[miclo18d]

After being shot? Or being shot once? All the videos you linked; the bad guy gets dropped (I couldn't load the 1st one so I didn't see it).

They all took multiple rounds, except for the guy that takes off, gets rammed, and comes out shooting. He takes one, I think to the head, and drops on the hood then they continue to shoot. I'd have pumped a few more into him to make sure he wasn't moving too!

Shot placement is key and normally cops don't train using stress shooting so when they get in shoot outs, they usually never hit vital areas that incapacitate their targets. They are usually the ones that talk about one shot stops, caliber being the holy grail of gun fighting.

I say shot placement, whether .22 on up to 120mm smooth bore! Hit the right spot and you don't have to worry about follow up shots.

Horse shoes, hand grenades, and on up to 2000lbs JDAMs ----- close is ok.

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by MAB32

Some law enforcement shootings.

http://connect.lawofficer.com/video/...n-and-shooting

She claimed the guy was going to cut himself, not her....so no victim being threatened with violence. Was it necessary to actually go in after him?

http://videos.cleveland.com/plain-de..._shooting.html

I remember seeing this one. The majority of the hits on the perp were after he went down. It took a good bit of time for the officers to actually hit him.

[QUOTE=Streck-Fu;539443]She claimed the guy was going to cut himself, not her....so no victim being threatened with violence. Was it necessary to actually go in after him?


That is the one that seems to me to be, well, excessive in a way. The officer only heard that "He has a knife." Once that was stated, I believe he went into fight or flight and he turned to fight. I think the officer actually pushed himself into having no other position than to shoot. A stun gun may have actually worked in this case only if he had back-up present to protect him while he used it.

And then there is the extreme:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...ing_scene.html

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by MAB32

And then there is the extreme:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...ing_scene.html

"I've never been more afraid in my life," said Officer Michael Brelo, who fired 49 shots that night. "I thought my partner and I were being shot and that we were going to be killed."
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Brelo said he saw "the suspects moving and I could not understand why they are still moving, shooting at us.

That is almost exactly the same thing the officer in LA (during the Dorner search) said when explaining why he rammed the truck of and shot at the driver. He was afraid....

"He's pointing the gun. He's pointing the gun out the back window. Heads up. Heads up. Passenger is pointing a gun out the back window. Everybody be careful," Siefer said.

Siefer later told investigators he didn't actually see a gun. "Despite not actually seeing a gun, Siefer broadcast on the radio that the passenger has just pointed a gun out the rear window," the report said.

Self induced hysteria....

Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

That is almost exactly the same thing the officer in LA (during the Dorner search) said when explaining why he rammed the truck of and shot at the driver. He was afraid....



Self induced hysteria....

I would say that it ended up being mass hysteria once they were stopped.