When is this gonna end!!!!!!!

[RichL025]

Shit, I just get back from the sandbox and find that ammo is STILL as rare as an intelligent liberal!!!!

Thank God I have a GTW stash laid aside of good stuff, but that means me & the wife are still near bingo on practice ammo... not to mention no IDPA matches...

Is ANYONE seeing an end to this madness yet?

[Sdiver]

Not until the DHS stops hording it all.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...hlight=billion

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Not until the DHS stops hording it all.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...hlight=billion

Are they buying up 22LR, too?

Pat

[Dusty]

It's the same as '08. You'll be able to get all you want in about 4 months, with the exception of 9mm, .357 Sig, and anything that fits into a hicap.

[The Reaper]

Local gun dealer is a friend.

He says that black rifles are starting to become available again, at lower prices.

Mags are still in short supply.

Small pistols continue to be in high demand as well.

All ammo is short, no fix before six months, even if demand returned to normal, as the entire distribution chain is cleaned out.

Reloading components like primers and powder are scarce, bullets are even worse.

Pending legislation will continue to adversely affect the market and create artifically high demand until it goes away.

Sorry for the bad news, but it might be getting better, instead of worse.

TR

[Stiletto11]

If some of the companies actually move out of the liberal states ( like they threatened) it will put them out of commission until they are back up and running; which may take some time. I've been able to get large rifle primers but that's about it on the reloading scene.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by PSM

Are they buying up 22LR, too?

Pat

Couldn't tell ya, but I don't think so.

But, in my 'warped" way of thinking, I liken .22LR to Pennies.

Both useful but what's the cost of making a .22 as compared to a .45 or .357, ect? Just as the .GOV is wanting to get rid of the Penny because it's cost too much to make just one. [it cost 2.45 cents to make one Penny ($0.01) .... http://www.nbcnews.com/business/econ...ay-what-583081 ]

Plus, like Pennies, how many .22LR do you have sitting around in your safe or where ever you keep you ammo? Open any kitchen "everything drawer" and I'm sure you'll find some Pennies in there. Walk down the street and I'm sure you'll see one or two or three just laying on the ground. Now I'm not saying that you'll find .22LR laying on the ground or in your "everything drawer", but you do buy .22 in "BLOCKS". Blocks of 200, 300, 400, or 500, or more, right? You don't use it all in one setting and if you're out and about and stop by your local gun store and see a block of .22 sitting there, you might just pick it up. You keep doing this and the next thing you know you start a thread on PS.com .... http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...27&postcount=1 .

Just my $0.02 ... which is really $0.05.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Not until the DHS stops hording it all.

The misunderstood .GOV procurement shell game v et al.

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...not-worry-you/

And so it goes...

Richard

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Richard

The misunderstood .GOV procurement shell game v et al.

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...not-worry-you/

And so it goes...

Richard

Ah, that makes sense.
It's akin to when the .GOV says they're going to buy "X" number of planes, or tanks, or jeeps, ect., they say how many they're getting and what the cost is going to be.

But, let's crunch some numbers.
Let's take the 1.6 billion rounds that seems to be bandied about.
Over five years.
... and just guesstimating six different types of ammo

1.6 billion / 5 years = 320,000,000 rounds
320 million / 6 different types of ammo = 53,333,333.33 rounds of specific ammo

Now lets' take that number which equals just one type of ammo for one year and divide that by the number of active duty DHS personal. which the number I found is 240,000

53,333,333 / 240,000 = 222.22 per person, per specific type of ammo, per year.

Now those numbers are split right down the middle. Obviously they're going to purchase more of a specific type of ammo over another.
Also, the total number of active duty personnel (240,000) not all need to qualify, retrain, weapon proficiency, ect. (although, I could be wrong on that point).

Taking the active duty number and cutting that in half (to represent those that are weapon qualed, and need to requal, train, practice) it would be ....
444.44 per person, per specific round, per year.

Sure, that last number may not seem like a lot. but when the ammo companies, who have contracts with the .GOV (DHS) as well as the Military, and L.E., ect., they're going to ear mark those rounds made in their plants for those contracts. The civilian markets are going to then suffer, and with those who are "hording" rounds (myself included), I can see gun store's shelves being bare.

Just my "tin-foil hat" thinging.

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by Richard

[COLOR="Lime"]The misunderstood .GOV procurement shell game v et al

Every party needs a pooper . . . Does this tinfoil make me look fat?