02-21-2013, 16:36
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RIP Quiet Professional
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Houston Group to Give Shotguns Away in High Crime Areas
They're doing this to see if it deters crime. Why don't they just read the CCW state crime stats? 
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...me-is-reduced/
HOUSTON (CBS HOUSTON) – A University of Houston graduate student says he’s conducting a study to hopefully answer the question being asked across the country, “Do more guns reduce crime or not?”
Kyle Coplen, who founded the Armed Citizens Project, is giving away 20-gauge single-shot shotguns to residents in mid- and high-crime neighborhoods to test whether or not the weapon will help reduce crime in the area, according to the group’s website. Coplen says the weapons are not of much value to criminals, but are especially useful for citizens looking to protect themselves from criminals.
“Gun-control advocates often argue that an increase in guns in an area will lead to an increase in crime, while gun-rights advocates often believe that fewer guns result in more crime. While both sides often argue that their opponents policies will result in more crime, gun-control proponents have largely been the victors when it comes to policy implementation,” the website explains. “Pro-gun activists have largely been content to simply fend off new potential gun control laws. It is my opinion that gun-rights activists must take the offensive, and actively encourage the increased presence of defensive weapons in society. Both sides believe that their policies will result in less crime, and it is about time that our side begins to act with the conviction and courage that it will take to win the debate.”
However, the unique experiment has specific criteria for determining who can receive the weapons from the Armed Citizens Project.
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02-21-2013, 16:45
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i smell a lawsuit
Do you suppose when someone innocent gets hurt with one of these shotguns, the university is going to get sued? I'm calling it.
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02-21-2013, 17:35
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I would think a gun and some training might be a better offer.
After a good background check.
I predict that none of these guns will do anything, good or bad, on their own.
TR
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02-21-2013, 18:10
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Oh I'm gonna see if I can get me a free shot gun! Put it next to my Obama phone!
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02-21-2013, 20:37
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Oh I'm gonna see if I can get me a free shot gun! Put it next to my Obama phone!
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My thought exactly!
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02-21-2013, 20:54
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Oh I'm gonna see if I can get me a free shot gun! Put it next to my Obama phone!
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Oh heck, just go and get one of those free guns they're handing out and then take it to the next "Gun Buy Back Program" (coming soon to s city near you) and trade it in for one of the Walmart gifts cards they hand out, then head over to Walmart and get you some ammo for the weapons you already have.
I've already made up a couple of "rocket launchers" to trade in for the next program. I just took a couple of extra large toilet paper rolls, painted one green and one black (to make them look extra "mean") added a few electronic thing-a-ma-jigs and doodads that blink and make noises, and they should pass with flying colors. 
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02-21-2013, 21:13
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Oh heck, just go and get one of those free guns they're handing out and then take it to the next "Gun Buy Back Program" (coming soon to s city near you) and trade it in for one of the Walmart gifts cards they hand out, then head over to Walmart and get you some ammo for the weapons you already have.
I've already made up a couple of "rocket launchers" to trade in for the next program. I just took a couple of extra large toilet paper rolls, painted one green and one black (to make them look extra "mean") added a few electronic thing-a-ma-jigs and doodads that blink and make noises, and they should pass with flying colors. |
Won't work with out a yellow band around the dangerous end!!!
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02-21-2013, 19:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
I would think a gun and some training might be a better offer.
After a good background check.
I predict that none of these guns will do anything, good or bad, on their own.
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The program requires passing a background check and attending a safety and 'tactical' course before taking possession of the firearm.
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All recipients must first pass a background check and have lived in their current home for longer than one year. They must also pass a safety and tactical course offered by the group.
“We’re not just tossing a bunch of shotguns into a community and walking away,” Coplen told Fox 26. “What we’re doing is finding residents who are interested in protecting themselves. we’re not forcing guns on anyone.”
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02-22-2013, 19:23
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Do you suppose when someone innocent gets hurt with one of these shotguns, the university is going to get sued? I'm calling it.
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Can't happen,, Our illustrious VP Biden told us to get a shotgun..
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02-22-2013, 21:24
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Can't happen,, Our illustrious VP Biden told us to get a shotgun..
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If shotguns are the answer, why do we issue soldiers rifles? Why are LEOs moving to carbines and rifles?
Maybe we should just fire randomly near villages just to scare them a little. Joe says that is GTG. Last time I checked, the ROE and laws prevented that.
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02-23-2013, 08:45
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"But wait.....there's more.....with each shotgun you will receive one of THESE informational stickers at absolutely no additional cost (less charges related to fingerprinting, background checks and DNA sampling)"
Please do not text and shoot....
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02-23-2013, 22:16
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How about sticking with passing out condoms and other means of birth control instead?
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