10-29-2004, 16:13
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Latest Bin Laden Tape
So what do you guys think?
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10-29-2004, 16:36
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
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I wish that pig f-er was rotting in hell. Between this video tape and the tape of the American AQ member it certian makes life harder for John Kerry.
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10-29-2004, 16:50
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I wish that pig poker was rotting in hell. Between this video tape and the tape of the American AQ member it certian makes life harder for John Kerry.
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Language, language. There are ladies...
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10-29-2004, 16:52
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Language, language. There are ladies...
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Sorry about that. I edited the word out. I have a visceral reaction to the mere mention of that animals name.
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10-29-2004, 16:54
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Thank you. Although I liked my edit of your quote better. 
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10-29-2004, 16:55
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YU*#^%^!#$$^%@!$#!$@#$~#$^%$^% I cannot believe we can't find that @$%^%!@#$%$!#$#~@@#$~@#$! to kill him! The most powerful and advanced nation in the world and we can't find one !@#$%#@%~@#$ raghead!
Where's Billy Waugh when we need him????
Billy if you're reading this I'm ready to go hunting....
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10-29-2004, 17:24
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The studio like set is interesting
He looks sickly
I wonder what they are hiding with him sitting behind a desk
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10-29-2004, 19:59
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The studio like set is interesting
He looks sickly
I wonder what they are hiding with him sitting behind a desk
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Monica Lewinski.
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10-29-2004, 19:54
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
YU*#^%^!#$$^%@!$#!$@#$~#$^%$^% I cannot believe we can't find that @$%^%!@#$%$!#$#~@@#$~@#$! to kill him! The most powerful and advanced nation in the world and we can't find one !@#$%#@%~@#$ raghead!
Where's Billy Waugh when we need him????
Billy if you're reading this I'm ready to go hunting....
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10-30-2004, 19:34
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Just an armchair theory, but it crossed my mind the tape might be intended more for Pakistani and Saudi domestic consumption, after all. OBL makes an obvious attempt at statesmanship and presents himself as the spokesman of the "Muslim Nation". Maybe this is the beginning of a coup attempt in Pakistan and/or Saudi Arabia and the targeting of US voters is just a by-product(?).
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10-31-2004, 08:29
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Wait a minute, ... according to some high ranking Washington democrats and former diplomats (Albright and crew) didn't W already have OBL? And wasn't He just waiting to wheel him out in shackles before the election???
Thank God for Mr. Cronkite. He cleared up my confusion, and refocused my thought process - I'll paraphrase "It was a very clever Republican who set OBL to do this thing" Yea, yea thats it (sound of marbles being rolled in my hand) it all started with the strawberrys... the strawberrys
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11-05-2004, 20:10
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Stratfor-Terror is posting a bunch of rumours about yet another tape delivered to Al Jazeera Nov. 3.
"... Sources close to the Pentagon have told Stratfor that Al Jazeera does, in fact, have a tape that has not been aired. The sources say it is likely the same message aired Oct. 29, but much longer. Therefore, Al Jazeera most likely is planning to air portions of the tape not previously broadcast...."
An article in MIT Technology (Jan 2004) suggested that the voice on the OBL tapes might actually be Saad bin Osama bin Laden - OBL's son. (OBL killed in Tora Bora)
"Saad bin Osama bin Laden is the third of Osama's 23 to 50 children; he is known to be in his early twenties. He has been active in al Qaeda since his pre-teen years, and was probably being groomed for eventual leadership. He is reported to be fluent in English and the use of computers. The Washington Post reported that Saad was a key organizer of the May 12, 2003, al Qaeda bombing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. There have been reports that he is hiding along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border; others say that he is in Iran close to the Afghanistan border, in a region not controlled by the Iranian government. The Arab newspaper Asharq Al Awsat says that Saad is now one of the principal leaders of al Qaeda, but I'm skeptical of that. Al Qaeda is too sophisticated to let such a young and inexperienced person take over. But he likely has an extremely useful talent: sounding like his dad.
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Parents and children tend to sound alike, and that effect is exaggerated when bandwidth is poor, such as in a telephone call or on a cassette recording. In fact, commercial speech recognition software that is "trained" to respond to a particular person's voice often will have a hard time distinguishing the voice of a family member. The more sophisticated systems that intelligence agencies presumably use may of course be less prone to such confusion-but I suspect that this vulnerability to child and sibling spoofing remains. And I doubt that the U.S. government has a recording of Saad to use for comparison..."
Thoughts?
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11-05-2004, 20:31
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I think that Cranky Old Walter is almost as crazy as Osama.
"Walt, step away from the crack pipe!"
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10-29-2004, 16:41
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All the pundits seem to think this will help Bush. I am not so sure.
An AQ attack would help Bush, I think this tape helps Kerry.
This may tie in with your other post about the AStan elections and AQ's inability to cause chaos. They have to pull OBL out of the caves and manufacture a tape.
Kerry has already started using the new tape:
'On a local Milwaukee news station WISN - Kerry was asked to respond to the new Bin-Laden tape and parts of it were played for him. He started:
"If Bush hadn't let him get away in Tora Bora..." .....'
I wonder when the tape was made. There is no reference to al-Zarqawi, which I find odd given their latest pledge of allegiance to bin Laden and al Qaeda.
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