12-29-2012, 09:35
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A War Between Japan And China In The Next Year?
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Don't Be Surprised If There's A War Between Japan And China In The Next Year
Chinese planes flew near Japanese airspace Monday to assert its claims to Japan's Senkaku islands (China calls them the Diaoyu islands).
The move came just as Japan announced its new prime minister.
Hugh White, a professor at Australian National University and a former Australian defense official, believes this is the latest sign the two countries are heading to war.
And the U.S. will be dragged in.
Writing in the Sydney Morning Herald, White says we are now witnessing the types of conditions that have historically led to war — despite conflict being in no one's interest.
THIS is how wars usually start: with a steadily escalating stand-off over something intrinsically worthless. So don't be too surprised if the US and Japan go to war with China next year over the uninhabited rocks that Japan calls the Senkakus and China calls the Diaoyu islands. And don't assume the war would be contained and short.
It seems almost laughably unthinkable that the world's three richest countries - two of them nuclear-armed - would go to war over something so trivial. But that is to confuse what starts a war with what causes it.
The conflict is really about China challenging the U.S. in the Pacific, White says. President Obama has vowed a Pentagon "pivot to Asia," itself a response to China's growing strength.
Claiming the Senkaku islands, a series of small outcroppings in the East China Sea, is China's way of testing America's new posture, White says.
And it's this kind of tit-for-tat that inevitably causes someone to open fire.
The risk is that, without a clear circuit-breaker, the escalation will continue until at some point shots are exchanged, and a spiral to war begins that no one can stop. Neither side could win such a war, and it would be devastating not just for them but for the rest of us.
No one wants this, but the crisis will not stop by itself.
http://www.businessinsider.com/china...#ixzz2GSIh0PgM
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12-29-2012, 09:55
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US will not stand firm (signaled back channel) behind Japan and China gets the Islands.
No War - the left is too busy working to ban guns.
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12-29-2012, 13:19
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China has a history of thinking in 100's if not thousands of years. WW2 is very recent history and the anger over Japanese invasion is not lost on today's generation nor the Communist Govt.
Our assistance to them is also remembered.
We are in a position to negotiate differences if we take the lead.
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12-29-2012, 14:47
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Originally Posted by PRB
China has a history of thinking in 100's if not thousands of years. WW2 is very recent history and the anger over Japanese invasion is not lost on today's generation nor the Communist Govt.
Our assistance to them is also remembered.
We are in a position to negotiate differences if we take the lead.
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Oh well...
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12-29-2012, 15:19
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The last thing this president will be known for is taking the lead on foreign policy....
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12-29-2012, 15:51
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The last thing this president will be known for is taking the lead on foreign policy....
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Somewhere during his run up to 2008, obama said about his lack of international experience that, "that is why he has biden on the ticket as VP". I know that I go to sleep wrapped up, all nice and cozy with the thought of "good old joe" taking care of these little international thingies  .
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