12-16-2012, 12:08
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UBRR PT Test
First off, to whoever came up with this INCREDIBLY accurate standard to measure overall fitness, kudos to you. I will tell you that this wipes the floor with the Army PT test because one who appears fit can train for the minimum in those events easily and be in bad shape. (Example would be your powerlifting type that hasn't ran more than 4 miles in his life). While unlikely, I hope that this replaces the regular PT test Army wide someday. Unfortunately it is somewhat more resource intensive and takes much longer to administer, and does not take into account age.
For those not aware of it it can be found at http://blog.refactortactical.com/spe...y-round-robin/
Looking at the numbers, simply passing this test with a 900 ensures that guys are in decent shape. If you are pushing scoring 1300-1400 you are an absolute monster. Anyone working crossfit, HIIT workouts, and long distance running with interval work should approach that number. I think if you look at the guys with those scores you will see an elite soldier capable of short high intensity activities and long runs/rucks as well.
Now that the test is filtering into alot of different organizations, I would like to ask what people are seeing. High scores? Failures of people considered fit by Army standards?
If you found this via search and want to train for it, check out Stew Smith's workout plan and EBOOK here: http://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/UBRR.htm
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12-21-2012, 17:09
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I tried this test today without the rope climb and shuttle run.
The muscle work is plenty do-able, but the 5 mile run kicked my ass. Those first two miles are fine, but if you are not conditioned for it, the last 3 miles are when your legs tell you "I do not want to be doing this."
I will be trying this again this week with a 5 mile ruck instead of the run.
Last edited by SomethingWitty; 12-21-2012 at 17:17.
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12-21-2012, 23:49
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Originally Posted by SomethingWitty
I tried this test today without the rope climb and shuttle run.
The muscle work is plenty do-able, but the 5 mile run kicked my ass. Those first two miles are fine, but if you are not conditioned for it, the last 3 miles are when your legs tell you "I do not want to be doing this."
I will be trying this again this week with a 5 mile ruck instead of the run.
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Then you didn't actually try the test, didja? BTW you don't listen to your muscles, you listen to your heart.
The ruck should be the EIB 12 miler maybe the next day . . .nah
Need to add a Swim -- say 500 meters untimed
RIF boards are gonna love this. Say bye bye to cooks, mechanics, medics (real medics not 18Ds) PAC pogues etc, etc. Solves the fat-boy problem too, a week before the APFT folks will be anorexic!
I like how the minimum is 100 points. Kinda gives credit where credit is due.
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12-25-2012, 05:42
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my math must have left much to be desired or something...
Let's see
"Pass all events with at least the minimum score, and Receive at least 1100 total points from all the events combined."
9 events, 1 pass/fail. Looks like 800 min score to me.
Only managed 977 without much prep. Kipp up is my favorite since I do wiper blades for fun 
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12-25-2012, 13:06
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Word on the street is you may see this in certain MOS's during the Q- and a good score to shoot for is 1200-1300. Get to it , boys!
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12-25-2012, 21:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bechorg
Word on the street is you may see this in certain MOS's during the Q- and a good score to shoot for is 1200-1300. Get to it , boys!
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It has been seen! My IODA administrated this to Alphas, Charlies and Echos. I believe the bravos were in the field making big rocks into smaller ones at the time it was given and the Deltas were tending to their patients.
Rumor mill has it that IODA's are going away and that the pipeline is changing (as everyone experiences, 3 changes thus far in my time with SWC) so I am unsure what role the UBRR will have for future classes but it was a good assessment.
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01-06-2013, 07:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bechorg
Word on the street is you may see this in certain MOS's during the Q- and a good score to shoot for is 1200-1300. Get to it , boys!
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If you are selected and show up to the 18E course out of shape, the UBRR will be the least of your worries. PT standards have been set, and we intend to maintain them.
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12-25-2012, 13:11
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Performed this test this morning. Only real "trouble" was the rope climb, which I've always done in only ACUs. Made it up fast but I felt, and probably looked, like a first timer... 
Next time the ruck will be first, or with lots of hills. More of Dozer's "heart" stuff might be required then. |
The test is usually done with a 20LB vest on. Don't be a hero, use your legs! Dont extend your arms more than half way above your head, and push off with your legs, working that cinch the whole time. Go for speed too, you don't want to be hanging on that rope for too long.
As for the five mile run, start working in longer runs around 7-10 miles at 9 minute paces once a week. This will get your mileage up, and also put in two four to six mile runs per week at near your top speed. Don't train for a five mile run by running five miles and calling it quits, push it further and be patient.
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03-27-2013, 16:55
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So this UBRR will replace the APFT in Special Forces and the Special Ops community?
That would take care of more recent 'events' with the upper body focus.
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05-19-2013, 04:19
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It would seem as of right now the rest of the force is interested in matching the door kickers performance and implementing the test. I believe it is a great metric but you may have some great endurance athletes who fall in the lower end just because the goal of their training. I don't see it replacing the pt test just because it is pretty resource and time intensive, and usually 295+ pt you have a stud. I am really glad to see the Thor3 program and things like this being implemented to develop overall functional strength, the kind of things that last a career not just get you ready for a school or selection. As a force we are headed in the right direction. If you don't believe me stop by at tucker gym on Bragg at around 1600Z
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05-25-2013, 10:45
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We just took the UBRR and I gotta say that it blows the AFPT out of the water. We had guys puking all over the place.
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05-25-2013, 12:08
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We just took the UBRR and I gotta say that it blows the AFPT out of the water. We had guys puking all over the place.
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Reread the board rules, this is not where your first post should be.
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