10-17-2004, 13:18
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Is there a place for the UN?
I believe that Kofi Annan made this statement earlier today.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...a/iraq_annan_4
It seems all he can do is stand there and crticize.
Aside from ducking and runnning has the UN anything to offer? is it an institution that need to be completely dsbanded or will reforms work? All it really seems capable of is dropping a few goods to those in need and lining the pockets of the bueraucrats who ordered the operation. I beleive that UN has a place, I just think it lost in long ago.
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10-17-2004, 14:39
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I think that having the UN maintain the perception of utter impartiality by criticising the US will only help make the coming elections in Iraq seem more legitimate, which may be an important factor in developing a stable Iraqi nation.
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10-17-2004, 14:44
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Originally Posted by csforstall
I believe that Kofi Annan made this statement earlier today.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...a/iraq_annan_4
It seems all he can do is stand there and crticize.
Aside from ducking and runnning has the UN anything to offer? is it an institution that need to be completely dsbanded or will reforms work? All it really seems capable of is dropping a few goods to those in need and lining the pockets of the bueraucrats who ordered the operation. I beleive that UN has a place, I just think it lost in long ago.
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It seems to me that Kofi Annan lives in some other world. Either he is a pathological liar or he is delusional, either way the UN under his leadership has become a haven for anti-US sentiment. The UN has been trending towards an anti-US sentiment over the last 20 years but under his watch it has come to the point where everything we do causes the General Assembly to fly into fits of rage.
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10-17-2004, 20:38
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Generates some interesting signals, I would imagine.
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10-17-2004, 20:54
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I think the UN, including Mr.Annan, should stay out of politics all together. Just focus helping those in need through UNESCO etc. and try to trim the organization of useless bureaucrats. It seems to me the UN is just a playground for the political elite of the developing world, which also makes it impossible to address the widespread corruption and other real issues in those countries.
But nice to see Mr.Annan has so much trust on the French and Russian leadership. Ask any ordinary joe on the streets of Paris or Moscow and he might give a slightly different answer.
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10-17-2004, 20:56
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Originally Posted by csforstall
I believe that Kofi Annan made this statement earlier today.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...a/iraq_annan_4
It seems all he can do is stand there and crticize.
Aside from ducking and runnning has the UN anything to offer? is it an institution that need to be completely dsbanded or will reforms work? All it really seems capable of is dropping a few goods to those in need and lining the pockets of the bueraucrats who ordered the operation. I beleive that UN has a place, I just think it lost in long ago.
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He did, I watched him do so on Fox News. Nothing like aiding the terrorists with his BS rhetoric. I think he is an oxygen thief and the UN is a waste.
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10-17-2004, 21:05
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The UN was designed by us to be an integral part of politics. I agree that what Annan said about France, Germany and Russia may be particularly false, but nonetheless I think that this statement, and his statement on ensuring fairness in the upcoming Iraq elections, will overall benefit the US.
JMO,
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10-17-2004, 21:12
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Hmmm...which statement Solid?
This one:
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"I cannot say the world is safer when you consider the violence around us, when you look around you and see the terrorist attacks around the world and you see what is going on in Iraq," Annan told ITV network.
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seems to contradict this one:
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"We have a lot of work to do as an international community to try and make the world safer," he said in an interview with the network's "The Jonathan Dimbleby Program."
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I mean...how do we make the world a safer place if taking out terrorists and those that aid them is not one and the same? Maybe I'm being to simplistic in my thinking...
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10-17-2004, 21:41
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The UN's role is as a bitter, unfullfilled footnote in history, another idea with good initiative and poor judgement.
It does have legitimacy in other countries, but that's about it; a political or moral tool is all.
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10-18-2004, 02:52
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Gypsy,
In both cases he describes the world as an unsafe place. In the first quote, he talks about specific causes of this unsafeness, in the second a potential remedy.
At least, that's my interpretation.
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