Obama's Arms Treaty.........

[greenberetTFS]

Obama arms treaty signing July 27th...........

http://www.reagancoalition.com/artic...ms-treaty.html

Big Teddy

[SF18C]

I think I just lost all my firearms...should I call the cops or something???

[Paslode]

Iran has been chosen as a member of the “bureau” overseeing a month-long United Nations conference in New York aimed at finalizing a controversial global “arms trade treaty.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/iran...-madoff-police

[Kyobanim]

Doesn't it take two-thirds of the senators to approve treaties? If that's the case, I doubt the US will be a signatory.

On a related matter, we need to get the fook out of the UN and send the whole bunch of those worthless assholes back to their 3rd world backwater shitholes.

Or an alien attack to take the place out.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Kyobanim

On a related matter, we need to get the fook out of the UN and send the whole bunch of those worthless assholes back to their 3rd world backwater shitholes.

Or an alien attack to take the place out.

It's worth a shot.

[rubberneck]

Originally Posted by Kyobanim

Doesn't it take two-thirds of the senators to approve treaties? If that's the case, I doubt the US will be a signatory.

On a related matter, we need to get the fook out of the UN and send the whole bunch of those worthless assholes back to their 3rd world backwater shitholes.

Or an alien attack to take the place out.

I don't think we should get out but I'm all in favor of paying no more than any of the other 192 members. Without cash they can't finance 99% of the bizarre off the wall crap that they come up with. Let them beg the Chinese to pick up our 22% of their annual budget while we pay China's paltry 3.189%

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Kyobanim

Doesn't it take two-thirds of the senators to approve treaties? If that's the case, I doubt the US will be a signatory.

You are correct about the 2/3 vote...however the MARPOL Treaty signed by SoS Hillary Clinton in 2010 has not received a 2/3 vote in favor of ratification.
Despite this the EPA, the Department of Homeland Security and others are apparently using this marine treaty amendment as the basis for the new federal regulations without waiting for ratification of that amendment by the U.S. Senate.

Alaska sues to block low-sulfur fuel requirement for ships

[greenberetTFS]

This isn't good,we better watch this!.........

Big Teddy

[Pericles]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

The current pres has decided to bypass the old outdate part of this law it is a living document you know. He is the anointed one and can do that. Btw the Geneva accords were never ratified by the Senete yea we follow them and prosicute soldiers for violating them.

This may be of interest to you: http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebSign?...rm&id=375&ps=P

[BrokenSwitch]

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

Obama arms treaty signing July 27th...........

http://www.reagancoalition.com/artic...ms-treaty.html

Big Teddy

Happy 27th...

[Paslode]

From Giuns.com

“Every major element ... has major loopholes,” said Peter Herby, head of the International Committee for the Red Cross arms unit. “There is a very high risk this treaty will simply ratify the status quo, rather than changing the status quo.”

“Rather than producing the highest possible international standards for the transfer of all conventional weapons, it would allow many countries to simply continue doing what they're doing,” Herby added.

http://www.guns.com/united-nations-a...les-10083.html

[afchic]

Many senators express concerns over arms treaty

By Donna Cassata - The Associated Press
Posted : Thursday Jul 26, 2012 19:00:03 EDT

WASHINGTON — A bipartisan group of 51 senators on Thursday threatened to oppose a global treaty regulating international weapons trade if it falls short in protecting the constitutional right to bear arms.

In a letter to President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the senators expressed serious concerns with the draft treaty that has circulated at the United Nations, saying that it signals an expansion of gun control that would be unacceptable.

The world’s nations are pressing to complete the first legally binding treaty dealing with arms trade and preventing the transfer of weapons to armed groups and terrorists. The 193-member U.N. General Assembly is expected to approve the treaty this month.

The senators said as the negotiations continue, “we strongly encourage your administration not only to uphold our country’s constitutional protections of civilian firearms ownership, but to ensure — if necessary, by breaking consensus at the July conference — that the treaty will explicitly recognize the legitimacy of lawful activities associated with firearms, including but not limited to the right of self-defense.

“As members of the United States Senate, we will oppose the ratification of any Arms Trade Treaty that falls short of this standard,” they wrote.

The lawmakers insisted that the treaty should explicitly recognize the legitimacy of hunting, sport shooting and other lawful activities.

They also raised concerns that the draft defines international arms transfers as including transport across national territory while requiring the monitor and control of arms in transit.

The National Rifle Association opposes the treaty, saying its members will never surrender the right to bear arms to the United Nations.

The treaty has been in the works since 2006. Abandoning the Bush administration opposition, the Obama supported an assembly resolution to hold this year’s four-week conference on the treaty.

In April, the U.S. assistant secretary of state for international security and nonproliferation, Thomas Countryman, reiterated U.S. support for a treaty.

“We want any treaty to make it more difficult and expensive to conduct illicit, illegal and destabilizing transfers of arms,” he said. “But we do not want something that would make legitimate international arms trade more cumbersome than the hurdles United States exporters already face.”

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by afchic

The senators said as the negotiations continue, “we strongly encourage your administration not only to uphold our country’s constitutional protections of civilian firearms ownership, but to ensure — if necessary, by breaking consensus at the July conference — that the treaty will explicitly recognize the legitimacy of lawful activities associated with firearms, including but not limited to the right of self-defense.

“As members of the United States Senate, we will oppose the ratification of any Arms Trade Treaty that falls short of this standard,” they wrote.

The lawmakers insisted that the treaty should explicitly recognize the legitimacy of hunting, sport shooting and other lawful activities.

Senate Amendment 2575 (tucked into the Cybersecurity bill) gets face-time from the AWB crowd; no mags or feeding devices over 10 rounds (except the .22). (sound familiar?)

These are naturally called "reasonable" measures.