06-28-2012, 07:54
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Female CST Special Forces Enabler Speaks
For review and possible discussion on CST.............. 
http://sofrep.com/8339/female-cst-sp...nabler-speaks/
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06-28-2012, 20:21
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These women are ruining the military. I am not even going to go any further into explaining that.
Conclude from that what you will. I have seen the other side of what happens here. I do not like it, that is why I retired.
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06-29-2012, 05:54
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Teddy
I think the sofrep.com site has an agenda that taints the topic.
While reading this post, it linked to another:
http://sofrep.com/4639/the-first-female-navy-seal/
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The First Female Navy SEAL
by Brandon Webb · March 12, 2012 · Posted In: Special Operations
FEMALE_NAVY_SEALs_SOFREP
The U.S. is in the dark ages when it comes to utilizing women in the US
The U.S. is in the dark ages when it comes to utilizing women in the US Special Operations community. Female Navy SEALs, Green Berets, and Combat Controllers? Why the hell not?
In all fairness the Army beat us to it with the first female Green Beret Katie Wilder.
Brandon is the SOFREP Executive Media Director, a former US Navy SEAL and author of The Red Circle (April 10th 2012 St. Martin’s Press release).
continued: http://sofrep.com/4639/the-first-fem...#ixzz1zBJPHhnK
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Me thinks this SEAL forgot to change the soda lime in his scrubber??
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06-29-2012, 07:52
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Gotcha........ 
Big Teddy
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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06-29-2012, 13:23
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Lots of good discussion and solid perspectives in the comments section.
I don't think this particular 2nd/3rd order effect was mentioned though:
I've been working with double, triple amputees, 50% and above TBSA burns fresh from the downrange (yep, draw down or not, US soldiers, marines, usw are still paying the price). We have severly injured (amputees etc.) female soldiers, but I never recall seeing them shown in full head to what's left in any publications/documentary/orientation videos of the wounded warrior care.
Why is this? Is it a mere discretion? Is the American public ready for it, mogadishu mixed with PVT Lynch? Are the social engineers with frequent visits from good idea fairies ready for it? Is the CST in the article ready for it?
It's all fun and games, until harsh reality sinks in
I am all for counting the cost (worst case scenario), doing one's best, and having no regret. This is biased and sure is emotional, but will glady admit I am not ready for it. I recall when I worked with the CST MAJ injured in training, and I picture if it was her on that bed with half body practically missing, foley, ostomy, ETT/trach, NGT, open belly and what remains of limbs covered with wvac, multiple wounds left open with packing, multiple sharpnel still in the body, eyes either showing blank stares or silent scream of pain during dressing change/eschar debridement....
Not that I'm glad it's a guy not a gal, but those having been there can relate I'm sure
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06-29-2012, 21:51
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Women in Combat
General Robert H. Barrow, 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps testimony before the SASC on Women in Combat. June 1991.
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06-30-2012, 06:16
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Wow. What a great public speaker. Clear and concise and did not beat around the bush. You can tell he is extremely well educated. He speaks slowly in order to choose every word he says next very carefully. He has great and undeniable points. You really can't argue with him. "exposure to danger is not combat...it's killing...". Extremely well spoken.
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06-30-2012, 07:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MR2
General Robert H. Barrow, 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps testimony before the SASC on Women in Combat. June 1991. |
Good points were made,that's for sure.........
Big Teddy
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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06-30-2012, 08:15
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What a great rebuttal, if anyone would listen, to all of the arguments for the changes that I have heard recently. He addressed every point that that idiot Odierno talks about. no one in any leadership position today has the level of experience with these matters than this man. Commanded in World War II, Korea and Vietnam. listen to his descriptions of hardship in combat around 11:00 minutes
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