05-12-2012, 03:23
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82nd's Gen. Jeffrey A. Sinclair removed from job in Afghanistan
"This is a criminal investigation," said Ben Abel, a Fort Bragg spokesman.
http://fayobserver.com/articles/2012...ac=fo.military
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05-12-2012, 04:37
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hmm, possibly not towing "the party line"???
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05-12-2012, 05:12
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Criminal investigation ......... He is incharge of the LOG side, contracts, supplies, etc..... Money does a strange thing to people.........
Just a observation only the CID agent knows..............
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05-12-2012, 05:28
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I can't imagine someone of his rank would be hurting financially......however, as was stated, money is a mythical beast that can make a sane man do crazy things.
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05-12-2012, 06:19
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I can't imagine someone of his rank would be hurting financially......however, as was stated, money is a mythical beast that can make a sane man do crazy things.
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Well there is one other thing that makes a man do crazy things but that is for another thread....
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05-12-2012, 07:15
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Well there is one other thing that makes a man do crazy things but that is for another thread....
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Such behavior cost the 173rd Bde CDR his career.
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05-12-2012, 09:36
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Well there is one other thing that makes a man do crazy things but that is for another thread....
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True, but that other thing usually is not criminal.
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09-26-2012, 12:21
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Army brigadier general faces sex, pornography charges
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09-26-2012, 12:51
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I'll see your General...and raise you a LTC....
A protocol officer for a general at U.S. Central Command at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., has been arrested for allegedly trying to entice a 17-year-old boy into sexual activity.
The Tampa Bay Times reports that Air Force Lt. Col. Stephen Michael Governale was being held Tuesday in Seminole County without bail pending an Oct. 1 hearing in Orlando federal court. Court documents do not identify the general to whom Governale, 49, of Tampa, reported or indicate where the teenager lives.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/26...-year-old-boy/
Just WTF is going on these days. The morals seem to be diminishing rapidly....leadership???? At THE highest level???
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09-26-2012, 13:34
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Just WTF is going on these days. The morals seem to be diminishing rapidly....
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WTH. You mean the in-room Spice channel on his Guv card didn't fly through DTS? I've got butter knives with a better edge.
It does seem as if a few more key leaders than previously reported are not displaying the professionalism that could be construed to foster trust. Such conduct can fan the flames of allegations that the chain of command is not walkin' the talk, whether it be as a go-to person in suicide prevention or proper reporting of incidents of sexual assault.
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09-26-2012, 15:51
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[QUOTE=glebo;468742]I'll see your General...and raise you a LTC....
A protocol officer for a general at U.S. Central Command at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., has been arrested for allegedly trying to entice a 17-year-old boy into sexual activity.
The Tampa Bay Times reports that Air Force Lt. Col. Stephen Michael Governale was being held Tuesday in Seminole County without bail pending an Oct. 1 hearing in Orlando federal court. Court documents do not identify the general to whom Governale, 49, of Tampa, reported or indicate where the teenager lives.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/26...-year-old-boy/
Just WTF is going on these days. The morals seem to be diminishing rapidly....leadership???? At THE highest level???[/QUOTE]
You remove any Standards, penalties and basically allow any type of conduct other than normal and people just go bonkers. I hate to
bunch a group into one stereo type but it is starting to show that we may have a trend. Wish the bell could be un rang......
Let the assault begin..........
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09-26-2012, 19:34
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You raised with a LTC on this hand?
You're gonna have to pony up more than that... Say a Sub Commander, Helo Squadron Commander and a couple who bumped or ground their boats to play this game!
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09-26-2012, 20:40
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Forcible sodomy.....you have to force sub into this....shoot him and get it over with.
Freakin Gen Officer abusing subordinates.
If you don't have the savvy to conduct consentual ops at his pay grade...kill him.
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09-26-2012, 21:35
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Forcible sodomy.....you have to force sub into this....shoot him and get it over with.
Freakin Gen Officer abusing subordinates.
If you don't have the savvy to conduct consentual ops at his pay grade...kill him.
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I am seeing a theme here...... Kill them..... I concur..!!!!!!!!
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09-27-2012, 06:04
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I'm pretty sure there was a time that he could have gotten away with this. It would have all been swept under the rug, and he would have quietly retired. I guess rank doesn't have as many privileges as it used to, which actually brightens my day. After 20 years of seeing NCO's get crucified, it's nice to see officers get publicly crushed under the same rules that they would enforce on the rest of us.
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