Permit to Kill Bald Eagles

[cbtengr]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...l-bald-eagles/

I have some very mixed emotions about this subject, on one hand I am totally repulsed by the thought of anyone deliberately killing our national symbol. On the other hand I believe strongly in religious freedom. The article brings out some good points, ones that I were not aware of.

"William Downes, then a federal judge in Wyoming......... Downes said the federal government generally refuses to grant permits to tribal members to kill eagles even though federal regulations say such permits should be available.

"Although the government professes respect and accommodation of the religious practices of Native Americans, its own actions show callous indifference to such practices," Downes wrote."

Since this is a Native American issue and I believe that Native Americans truly respect our national symbol I guess I can supprt this decision on a very limited basis. Should the powers to be get too liberal in the issuance of permits I would rethink my position. I do find it hard to believe though "that the birds American Indians receive from a federal depository were rotten, or otherwise unfit for use in religious ceremonies."
This had better not be the case.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by cbtengr

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...l-bald-eagles/

I have some very mixed emotions about this subject, on one hand I am totally repulsed by the thought of anyone deliberately killing our national symbol. On the other hand I believe strongly in religious freedom. The article brings out some good points, ones that I were not aware of.

"William Downes, then a federal judge in Wyoming......... Downes said the federal government generally refuses to grant permits to tribal members to kill eagles even though federal regulations say such permits should be available.

"Although the government professes respect and accommodation of the religious practices of Native Americans, its own actions show callous indifference to such practices," Downes wrote."

Since this is a Native American issue and I believe that Native Americans truly respect our national symbol I guess I can supprt this decision on a very limited basis. Should the powers to be get too liberal in the issuance of permits I would rethink my position. I do find it hard to believe though "that the birds American Indians receive from a federal depository were rotten, or otherwise unfit for use in religious ceremonies."
This had better not be the case.

Well, the Northern Arapaho vote is salted down.

[SLVGW360]

I don't really have an opinion on the giving of permits for taking Bald Eagles. I am not that familiar with the provisions of the Eagle Act which is still in effect for both Bald and Golden Eagles. Here is a link for additional information: http://www.fws.gov/midwest/MidwestBi...its/index.html

I do know that the US Fish and Wildlife Service can and will issue permits for protected species in specific instances.

I have personally delivered or shipped eagles and other raptors to the USF&WS repository in Denver. I can say that many are not in the greatest condition. We tend to acquire them from being hit while scavenging along roadways, electrocutions, collisions, etc. From these types of sources they might be on the ground for quite sometime before we even know about them. Unless they are way beyond salvage, we still send them. That doesn't mean that they are pristine. Some poaching does occur, but we don't get many that way. Sometimes one will pick up lead and we'll find them sick. Those we can deliver quite fresh.

FWIW

RB

[The Reaper]

Well, it was either a couple of eagles, or a couple more casino permits.

TR

[TOMAHAWK9521]

The tribes should simply wait beneath those eye-sore windmills that are cluttering up the western landscapes. Those suckers whack eagles and all other types of birds out of the sky all the time. And since the windmills are part of the green energy industry, it's all natural. So, in a way, the tribes don't even need to ask, they can let the government's program kill the birds for them.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by TOMAHAWK9521

The tribes should simply wait beneath those eye-sore windmills that are cluttering up the western landscapes. Those suckers whack eagles and all other types of birds out of the sky all the time. And since the windmills are part of the green energy industry, it's all natural. So, in a way, the tribes don't even need to ask, they can let the government's program kill the birds for them.

Yep, twenty or thirty years from now they will be rusted remnants of another failed leftist policy!

My sister's father-in-law, in Snyder, TX, was invited to a meeting with an "alternative energy" provider. They offered $13,000 a windmill to the land owners. My sister asked what would happen if they went tits up. Who would remove the windmills? They ignored her question. Her FIL declined the offer and encouraged his neighbors to do the same.

My sister was a "Land Man" for a law office in Amarillo, TX, that handled oil and gas leases in TX, NM, OK, CO, and KS. She knows things.

Pat