03-04-2012, 09:26
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Baloney! The enviro-fascists forced plastic bags on us in the '70s to save trees. Whatever bad effect it has is on their effing heads. To hell with them! I'm tired of these freaks getting a voice in my life. And they can screw those curly light bulbs up their asterisks, too.
Pat
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03-04-2012, 09:32
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There is an exception. Abortion "doctors" may continue to use one-time bags to transport dead babies to the incinerator.
I lived in that stinking hippie hive one time; lasted about a month.
I stood out like a zit on a virgin's breast.
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03-04-2012, 09:38
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So, what will all the plastic bag workers do?
Do we just fire them and add them to a 99 week unemployment list.
Owners of plastic bag companies?
How about people that reuse their purchase bags for garbage bags after getting home? Wont they now have to buy plastic bags to put garbage in... Oh wait, no loss of work for the plastics company or workers and no damn difference to the landfill. wew glad that is solved.
But we will all "feel" allot better seeing others carrying groceries in reusable bags.
Be interesting if the lawmakers would start their mission statements considering end state, second, and third order effects.
Random off topic thought: MRE bags should have one ziplock type end.
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03-04-2012, 09:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Destrier
So, what will all the plastic bag workers do?
Do we just fire them and add them to a 99 week unemployment list.
Owners of plastic bag companies?
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They can convert to manufacturing reusable bags. My wife has been using reusable bags for grocery shopping since the early 80's. We have some that are insulated for frozen and refrigerated items.
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03-04-2012, 10:03
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I edited while you posted.
Most folks that reuse their store purchase bags for their garbage bags will now buy garbage bags.
End result, probably no change or minor change to the landfill.
We recycle here. One bin metal cans etc, One bin for paper, one bin for plastics, we use our store bags for garbage. I do not mind using my Alice pack to haul groceries, did in Germany for years from PX to Panzer housing.
What I mind is, the feel good legislation with little real effect to the landfill.
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03-04-2012, 10:14
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They can convert to manufacturing reusable bags. My wife has been using reusable bags for grocery shopping since the early 80's. We have some that are insulated for frozen and refrigerated items.
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Just curious; do you guys eat veal?
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03-05-2012, 12:42
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So, what will all the plastic bag workers do?
Do we just fire them and add them to a 99 week unemployment list.
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Depends; if they stay on the couch it could have a positive effect on Zero's employment stats.
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A common sense law ....
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...should start in many cases with the words, "An Act to repeal...
People got multiple uses out of both the old paper grocery bag that Pete reminisces of, and it carried more. It also burned up nicely, or deteriorated when discarded about a bazillion times faster than plastic crap.
Sgd,
Former 14-yo grocery store bagger (and good at it) who learned what the vernacular of 'scab' was when I crossed thru some adult-type folks on the way to work. They were carrying signs & everything; I think they were po'd about something...
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03-05-2012, 12:37
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Baloney! The enviro-fascists forced plastic bags on us in the '70s to save trees. Whatever bad effect it has is on their effing heads. To hell with them! I'm tired of these freaks getting a voice in my life. And they can screw those curly light bulbs up their asterisks, too.
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This is no different than the health nuts selling the idea that butter and lard are bad for us so they pushed hydrogenated vegetable oil.....and now that is the source of trans-fat they want banned now.
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03-04-2012, 10:01
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A common sense law that will make a difference to environment.
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So rather than recycle plastic and wood pulp to create bags..
This common sense law will cause the cost of raw cotton & wool to sky rocket to product environmentally SAFE bags??
Or do we make the bags from IMPORTED Petro chemicals, which will cause the price of gas to go up???
About as stupid as using corn to make fake gas while the cost of taco's goes thru the roof..
Sound legit to me...
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03-04-2012, 15:35
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Ok, I agree there are some difficulties instituting a program that requires people to plan and consider long term consequences; wrong forum. Also , I am somewhat surprised that a forum which prides itself on the ability to train up indigenous troops, cops out on domestic discipline in the home.
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03-04-2012, 15:50
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I am sorry, but my Libertarian streak tells me that the government should not be in the business of telling me what is good for me or what I cannot do.
Fits right in with the First Lady's agenda of calling the food police on me because I use butter or salt.
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03-04-2012, 16:02
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While we're at it, let's make everyone drive little electric cars (or ride bicycles), stop polluting with those terrible charcoal barbecues, stop driving vehicles unless you're carpooling, be vegetarians, use fluorescent bulbs, put solar panels on your roof and a windmill in your backyard if you want power . . . should I go on?
I'm sorry, but this is a really terrible idea and I am tired of the government forcing everyone to do what the liberal elites think would be good for us.
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03-04-2012, 17:33
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While we're at it, let's make everyone drive little electric cars (or ride bicycles), stop polluting with those terrible charcoal barbecues, stop driving vehicles unless you're carpooling, be vegetarians, use fluorescent bulbs, put solar panels on your roof and a windmill in your backyard if you want power . . .
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... unless you're one of the overtly hypocritical lib politicians who instituted the policy.
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03-04-2012, 18:23
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MOO, the environmentalists, urbanists, brown-fielders, smart builders, and other "socially conscious" groups could get a lot of more traction if they pursued campaigns centered around respectful persuasion rather than heavy-handed legislation. I think they'd rather get credit for being "right" than for getting things done.
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