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SHERIFF JOE TO RELEASE 'INVESTIGATION' OF OBAMA...
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/media-fin...o-eligibility/
This could be interesting, or it could be a total Flop. Investigation into Obama's eligibility as president under the Constitution. It will stream live today, starting at 3pm EST.
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03-01-2012, 15:04
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"President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House on April 27, 2011, is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery, not a scan of an original 1961 paper document as represented by the White House when the long-form birth certificate was made public," Arizona's Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said at a press conference today in Phoenix.
This is the major preliminary finding of a six-month ongoing Sheriff's Cold Case Posse law enforcement investigation into the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his eligibility to be president.
Having developed probable cause to believe the long-form birth certificate was most likely a computer-generated forgery, investigators began examining other evidence of President Obama's life history.
Investigators additionally have developed credible evidence suggesting:
• President Obama's Selective Service card was most likely a forgery, revealed by an examination of the postal date stamp on the document;
• Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama's birth, including the dates Aug. 1, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961.
Beginning in October 2011, the Sheriff's Cold Case Posse, consisting of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, examined dozens of witnesses and hundreds of documents, as well as taking numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.
In August 2011, 250 members of the Surprise, Arizona, Tea Party, residents of Maricopa County, presented a signed petition asking Sheriff Arpaio to undertake the investigation.
The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was utilized to obtain a position for Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.
The Cold Case investigators further determined that the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in what Sheriff's investigators believe is a systematic effort to hide from public inspection whatever original 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may have in their possession.
"Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures, to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have," said Mike Zullo, the lead investigator in Sheriff Arpaio's Cold Case Posse.
The Cold Case investigators have not yet determined who, when, or precisely how the long-form computer-generated birth certificate released on April 27 may have been forged, but investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.
The Cold Case Posse investigators advised Sheriff Arpaio that the forgers most likely committed two crimes: first, in fraudulently creating a forgery that the White House characterized, knowingly or unknowingly, as an officially produced governmental birth record; and second, in fraudulently presenting to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery the White House represented as "proof positive" of President Obama's authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.
"A continuing investigation is needed to identify the identity of the person or persons involved in creating the alleged birth certificate forgery, and to determine who, if anyone, in the White House or the state of Hawaii may have authorized the forgery," Arpaio said.
Among the evidence released at the press conference were five videos the Cold Case Posse produced to demonstrate why the Obama long-form birth certificate is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery.
The videos consisted of step-by-step computer demonstrations using a control document.
The videos were designed to display the testing used by the investigators to examine various claims made by supporters of the April 27 document.
The videos illustrate point-by-point the investigators' conclusion that the features and anomalies observed on the Obama long-form birth certificate were inconsistent with features produced when a paper document is scanned, even if the scan of the paper document had been enhanced by Optical Character Recognition (OCR) and optimized.
Additionally, the videos demonstrated that the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar's name stamp and the Registrar's date stamp were computer-generated images imported into an electronic document, as opposed to actual rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document.
"That we were able to cast reasonable suspicions on the authenticity of the Registrar stamps was especially disturbing, since these stamp imprints are designed to provide government authentication to the document itself," Zullo said, stressing that if the Registrar stamps are forgeries, the document itself is likely a forgery.
The investigators also chronicled a series of inconsistent and misleading representations that various Hawaii government officials have made over the past five years regarding what, if any, original birth records are held by the Hawaii Department of Health.
"As I said at the beginning of the investigation," Arpaio said, "the president can put all this to rest quite easily. All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm, and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession."
Arpaio further stressed the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm, and electronic records, in order to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records.
Arpaio went on to say the President should also authorize Kapiolani Hospital, the birth hospital listed on the Obama long-form birth certificate, to release any and all hospital patient records for Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, his mother, and for the newly born Barack Obama, in order to provide additional corroboration for the original 1961 birth records held in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.
"Absent the authentic Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as he and the White House have consistently asserted," Zullo said.
"In fact, absent the authentication of Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other proof he was born anywhere within the United States."
Arpaio concluded the press conference by suggesting a congressional investigation might be warranted and asked that any other law enforcement agency with information referencing this investigation be forwarded to his office.
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03-01-2012, 19:32
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test it yourself and draw your own conclusions
If you have illustrator/bridge installed go ahead and watch the video and then download the birth cert and try it yourself!
If all you have is reader you can still zoom to 1600%, and the altered images becomes very obvious. It actually leaves little doubt that what is posted on the WH site is not a scanned copy of an original.
http://tinyurl.com/7su2zdw
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03-01-2012, 19:42
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Just in time for Super Tuesday.
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03-01-2012, 19:42
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Nothing to see here America. Just move along.
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03-01-2012, 20:12
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This "fluff-n-stuff" focus is - IMO - making American conservatives appear as if they are nothing more than an all-star cast in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest II - and as my wife is wont to say, "Perception is reality." Sad and maddening...because it merely fuels the fires of the "left's narrative" and only furthers the possibility of yet another four years of the incumbent and his administration.
Personally, I cannot formulate an expression using tangible words from any language that would even begin to express just how much this inanity pisses me off and makes me want to yell, "The issues, stupid! Stick with the issues!"
And so it goes...
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03-01-2012, 21:19
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Originally Posted by Richard
Personally, I cannot formulate an expression using tangible words from any language that would even begin to express just how much this inanity pisses me off and makes me want to yell, "The issues, stupid! Stick with the issues!"
And so it goes...
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I couldn't disagree more. I am not a conspiracy theorist and, until today, thought the birthers were out of their minds. I watched those videos and found them to be extraordinarily compelling. Compelling enough to warrant a congressional investigation as Arpaio suggests. If we say "there is nothing we can do about it" or "he's already president, why not focus on winning the election" we.re lost. If true, a complete fraud, not just an empty suit foisted upon us, has been perpetrated against the American people.
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03-02-2012, 08:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
This "fluff-n-stuff" focus is - IMO - making American conservatives appear as if they are nothing more than an all-star cast in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest II - and as my wife is wont to say, "Perception is reality." Sad and maddening...because it merely fuels the fires of the "left's narrative" and only furthers the possibility of yet another four years of the incumbent and his administration.
Personally, I cannot formulate an expression using tangible words from any language that would even begin to express just how much this inanity pisses me off and makes me want to yell, "The issues, stupid! Stick with the issues!"
And so it goes...
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Yeah. Like whether he really cheats at golf.
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03-01-2012, 20:20
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Sheriff Joe might be 100% correct, but most people could care less where he was born, if he is an imposter, a real life Manchurian candidate or whatever. So right or wrong I don't think it is going to make any difference. The only thing I see coming out of this is Sheriff Joe will be know as a silly old man, who discriminates against Mexicans and who has come out as birther.
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03-01-2012, 20:34
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03-03-2012, 11:58
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Re: Adobe Photo Shopped COLB
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Originally Posted by Mr Furious
If you have illustrator/bridge installed go ahead and watch the video and then download the birth cert and try it yourself!
If all you have is reader you can still zoom to 1600%, and the altered images becomes very obvious. It actually leaves little doubt that what is posted on the WH site is not a scanned copy of an original.
http://tinyurl.com/7su2zdw
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A document expert called Techdude showed how this was done. The sad thing is we have Americans who do not care where Obozzo was born.
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03-03-2012, 12:30
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A document expert called Techdude showed how this was done. The sad thing is we have Americans who do not care where Obozzo was born.
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At this point, I don't care, myself. I just want a brand new President.
One not raised on Rules for Radicals and groomed by domestic terrorists and racist preachers.
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03-03-2012, 13:02
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REPLACING THE GOVernment!
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At this point, I don't care, myself. I just want a brand new President.
One not raised on Rules for Radicals and groomed by domestic terrorists and racist preachers.
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At this point in time , The Executive, The Legislative, and The Judicial branches need the citizens to vote out the corrupt, lying and inefficient members out of office. The ultra left liberal Judges need to be made to resign or be impeached for their misguided agende to make & interpert the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and the other laws of the U S A. TK.
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03-03-2012, 17:02
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At this point, I don't care, myself. I just want a brand new President.
One not raised on Rules for Radicals and groomed by domestic terrorists and racist preachers.
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At this point I am willing to put my faith in the electorate come November, and I urge you all to try to do the same thing. There were a lot of gullible voters who bought what the annointed one was selling back in 08. Plus the fact that McCain was IMHO a terrible candidate. Obama has managed to burn almost everyone whether they voted for him or not. There will always be a percentage of democrat voters who will vote strictly along party lines. Our danger is that we are not far off from hitting the point where he has more than 50% of all voters on some sort of govt. program and dependant on the govt. This election may very well be our all or nothing election. Obama and his ilk have got to go, and its in the hands of conservatives and independants to see that he is removed. Its time for that "Silent Majority" to rise and have its voices heard.
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Techdude and 2008 election
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Originally Posted by hydrashok
"President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House on April 27, 2011, is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery, not a scan of an original 1961 paper document as represented by the White House when the long-form birth certificate was made public," Arizona's Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said at a press conference today in Phoenix.
This is the major preliminary finding of a six-month ongoing Sheriff's Cold Case Posse law enforcement investigation into the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his eligibility to be president.
Having developed probable cause to believe the long-form birth certificate was most likely a computer-generated forgery, investigators began examining other evidence of President Obama's life history.
Investigators additionally have developed credible evidence suggesting:
• President Obama's Selective Service card was most likely a forgery, revealed by an examination of the postal date stamp on the document;
• Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama's birth, including the dates Aug. 1, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961.
Beginning in October 2011, the Sheriff's Cold Case Posse, consisting of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, examined dozens of witnesses and hundreds of documents, as well as taking numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.
In August 2011, 250 members of the Surprise, Arizona, Tea Party, residents of Maricopa County, presented a signed petition asking Sheriff Arpaio to undertake the investigation.
The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was utilized to obtain a position for Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.
The Cold Case investigators further determined that the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in what Sheriff's investigators believe is a systematic effort to hide from public inspection whatever original 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may have in their possession.
"Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures, to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have," said Mike Zullo, the lead investigator in Sheriff Arpaio's Cold Case Posse.
The Cold Case investigators have not yet determined who, when, or precisely how the long-form computer-generated birth certificate released on April 27 may have been forged, but investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.
The Cold Case Posse investigators advised Sheriff Arpaio that the forgers most likely committed two crimes: first, in fraudulently creating a forgery that the White House characterized, knowingly or unknowingly, as an officially produced governmental birth record; and second, in fraudulently presenting to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery the White House represented as "proof positive" of President Obama's authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.
"A continuing investigation is needed to identify the identity of the person or persons involved in creating the alleged birth certificate forgery, and to determine who, if anyone, in the White House or the state of Hawaii may have authorized the forgery," Arpaio said.
Among the evidence released at the press conference were five videos the Cold Case Posse produced to demonstrate why the Obama long-form birth certificate is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery.
The videos consisted of step-by-step computer demonstrations using a control document.
The videos were designed to display the testing used by the investigators to examine various claims made by supporters of the April 27 document.
The videos illustrate point-by-point the investigators' conclusion that the features and anomalies observed on the Obama long-form birth certificate were inconsistent with features produced when a paper document is scanned, even if the scan of the paper document had been enhanced by Optical Character Recognition (OCR) and optimized.
Additionally, the videos demonstrated that the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar's name stamp and the Registrar's date stamp were computer-generated images imported into an electronic document, as opposed to actual rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document.
"That we were able to cast reasonable suspicions on the authenticity of the Registrar stamps was especially disturbing, since these stamp imprints are designed to provide government authentication to the document itself," Zullo said, stressing that if the Registrar stamps are forgeries, the document itself is likely a forgery.
The investigators also chronicled a series of inconsistent and misleading representations that various Hawaii government officials have made over the past five years regarding what, if any, original birth records are held by the Hawaii Department of Health.
"As I said at the beginning of the investigation," Arpaio said, "the president can put all this to rest quite easily. All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm, and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession."
Arpaio further stressed the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm, and electronic records, in order to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records.
Arpaio went on to say the President should also authorize Kapiolani Hospital, the birth hospital listed on the Obama long-form birth certificate, to release any and all hospital patient records for Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, his mother, and for the newly born Barack Obama, in order to provide additional corroboration for the original 1961 birth records held in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.
"Absent the authentic Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as he and the White House have consistently asserted," Zullo said.
"In fact, absent the authentication of Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other proof he was born anywhere within the United States."
Arpaio concluded the press conference by suggesting a congressional investigation might be warranted and asked that any other law enforcement agency with information referencing this investigation be forwarded to his office.
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A document expert who went by Techdude uncovered all this prior to the 08 election.
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