Pedophile State

**Bill Harsey** · 11-08-2011, 14:33

or what was known as Penn State.

If what I read is true, what a bunch of failures, all the up to and including Joe Paterno and the Penn State President.

story: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sp...rnos-exit.html

Streck-Fu · 11-08-2011, 14:38

After 50 years, this will be the summary of Joe Pa's career.

tonyz · 11-08-2011, 15:01

If there is one thing that reasonable folks should agree on - ZERO TOLERANCE - for this type of shit should be that one thing.

Red Flag 1 · 11-08-2011, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Bill Harsey

or what was known as Penn State.

If what I read is true, what a bunch of failures, all the up to and including Joe Paterno and the Penn State President.

story: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sp...rnos-exit.html

That's what I see as well Bill. Paterno was in a regrettable, no-win position.

RF 1

greenberetTFS · 11-08-2011, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Red Flag 1

That's what I see as well Bill. Paterno was in a regrettable, no-win position.

RF 1

I think I see both of your points,but that's no way to treat a man that has done so much good to football and Penn State..

Big Teddy

cbtengr · 11-08-2011, 16:30

Joe did what he was supposed to do in the beginning which was to move this up the his chain of command, I am guessing he did not figure they were gonna bury it, which in the end may be his downfall. However if he goes down then the assistant who originally reported it ti him has to be on the hook too, and who knows how many others. Hindsight is always 20/20 and I am guessing that had Joe had it to do all over again he would have pursued this more vigorously. I personally do not think he should be the fall guy.

Oldrotorhead · 11-09-2011, 22:19

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Originally Posted by cbtengr

Joe did what he was supposed to do in the beginning which was to move this up the his chain of command, I am guessing he did not figure they were gonna bury it, which in the end may be his downfall. However if he goes down then the assistant who originally reported it ti him has to be on the hook too, and who knows how many others. Hindsight is always 20/20 and I am guessing that had Joe had it to do all over again he would have pursued this more vigorously. I personally do not think he should be the fall guy.

Joe Paterno is a civilian as am I. I do not have a chain of command and I don't have to ask any boss's permission to go to the police if something like this happens, nor would I ask permission. No one including Paterno did the honoragle thing by making sure Sandusky was arrested for his behavior.

DJ Urbanovsky · 11-10-2011, 00:53

Some people care more about self preservation than they do about doing what's right.

Maybe somebody told old Joe to keep his mouth shut or his career was over.

Maybe somebody told old Joe to keep his mouth shut or he would be over.

Old Joe likes coaching a winning team at a major university.

Old Joe likes money and prestige.

Old Joe likes getting the best table in the place when he goes out to eat.

Old Joe likes his Mercedes Benz.

Old Joe likes living.

I don't know diddly about Old Joe. But I know that wrong, disgusting situations like this happen all the time. Because there's evil out in the world.

Asset83 · 11-10-2011, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Oldrotorhead

Joe Paterno is a civilian as am I. I do not have a chain of command and I don't have to ask any boss's permission to go to the police if something like this happens, nor would I ask permission. No one including Paterno did the honoragle thing by making sure Sandusky was arrested for his behavior.

Very true. To make matters worse, Sandusky wasn't employed by Penn State at the time; he wasn't part of any so-called "chain of command". Sandusky retired in 1999 when he was informed he wasn't going to be Paterno's successor. He stayed in the area and was allowed use of the facilities at any time, including the 2002 incident the graduate assistant witnessed.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 11-08-2011, 16:31

If this was going on at Penn State, just imagine the situation at Notre Dame!

full cooler · 11-08-2011, 16:52

Seems to me that Coach P could have avoided any of these problems by doing the right thing when it happened. I won't ever think of football when someone mentions his name to me.

mojaveman · 11-08-2011, 16:57

Apparently the perpetrator was literally caught in the act at onetime and nobody blew the whistle.

tonyz · 11-08-2011, 16:56

I wonder if Sandusky was working for Paterno as defensive coordinator (or in any other capacity) when Paterno heard that Sandusky was molesting a child at the PSU athletic facilities?

IMO, Paterno should have confronted Sandusky and turned him in to police and not just report up the chain.

Paterno was certainly aware of the scandals that plagued the Catholic church in the mid 1980's.

IMO, one child's innocence (and stopping the next line of victims) is worth any temporary pain potentially caused to the institution.

If I hear of child molestation in my building.

ZERO TOLERANCE.

Sorry Jo Pa - maybe you should not take the fall - but the kid should not have been molested and, if true, Sandusky should have been stopped years ago.

kgoerz · 11-08-2011, 17:01

He was a coach of a sports team. Is this who we think is important these days. We are fucked if true.
I contributed to society a thousand times more then this guy. Guilty or innocent. 4 year old kids play the same game. Shit, don't tell him that

Buffalobob · 11-08-2011, 18:43

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He was a coach of a sports team. Is this who we think is important these days. We are fucked if true.

Great Post!!!

They make big money and contribute nothing to society.