MedEvac Questions

MoFo · 06-13-2011, 20:04

Any of youz recently been medevac-ed? Been a medevac medic?

What terms are in fashion now to refer to patients?

2 medics on each blackhawk medevac? And if going in hot do they have crew in the door on the guns, or is there room for that, with all the medical gear they load on those birds these days?

They do not call the field hospitals MASHs anymore. What are they called now?

Mack · 06-14-2011, 12:35

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Originally Posted by MoFo

Any of youz recently been medevac-ed? Been a medevac medic?

What terms are in fashion now to refer to patients?

2 medics on each blackhawk medevac? And if going in hot do they have crew in the door on the guns, or is there room for that, with all the medical gear they load on those birds these days?

They do not call the field hospitals MASHs anymore. What are they called now?

Patients are still called patients. Having said that, the conversation is usually something like,

Me: "How many patients at this time?"
Flight Medic: "2 US Mil WIA, 1 Afghan Mil WIA, 2 Afghan Civ etc..."
Me: "Was the medic on the ground injured?"
Flight Medic: "I don't know."
Me: "I'll bring my mission gear just in case."

There was typically 1 flight medic per UH-60. The medevac bird didn't have big guns (249, M2, Minigun). The only guns on board were M4s
(flight medic and crew). The chase UH-60 had armament typical of a NON-medevac platform, however, I was never on that bird.

There's quite a bit of room on the medevac as I've seen 5 patients loaded onto 1 UH-60 during a TIC. The flight medic had his hands full on that one.

The FST (Forward Surgical Team) is where our patients go unless they can get to a bigger base that would have more medical resources (hospital).

I'm not a Flight medic, but my most recent Afghanistan rotation (A/3/20 Aug10-Apr11) afforded me the opportunity to ride with the Medevac folks on a few occasions.

Keep in mind this was just for Army Medevac that I had experience with. The headcount and armament is going
to be different for other medevac platforms/units. Pedro comes to mind.

Later Bro...

Doczilla · 08-04-2011, 11:54

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Originally Posted by MoFo

Any of youz recently been medevac-ed? Been a medevac medic?

What terms are in fashion now to refer to patients?

2 medics on each blackhawk medevac? And if going in hot do they have crew in the door on the guns, or is there room for that, with all the medical gear they load on those birds these days?

They do not call the field hospitals MASHs anymore. What are they called now?

Agree, still called patients.

1 medic, may also have one flight nurse or surgeon, depending on acuity and where they are being evac'd from or to.

2 litter patients fully packaged for critical care, more if they are not critical or placed on a litter.

The Army terms d'art:
Forward Surgical Team (FST, or "fast" team) This is a small surgical element that has a holding capacity for 72h or less. Usually houses a general and ortho surgeon (up to 4 total) and anesthesia provider (MD or CRNA) or two.
Combat Support Hospital (CSH, or "cash") This is a more robust asset with various subspecialties (ER, Internal med, surgical subspecialties). Our policy was, if possible, to discharge or evac a patient within a week, but we were a pretty scaled down version.

Navy/USMC:
Forward Resuscitative Surgical System. Meant for limited damage control surgery and immediate evac.
Shock Trauma Platoon (like the FST). These will usually also incorporate an ER doc. I'm not sure why the Army hasn't figured this out yet.

Air Force:
Expeditionary Medical Support (EMEDS, pronounced ee-meds), similar to the FST, also with an ER doc. Meant to hold patients up to 24h.
Air Force Theater Hospital (AFTH), similar to the CSH

'zilla

cback0220 · 08-04-2011, 12:55

A little non-standard knowledge. If you request a hoist, the PJ's will come. Prolly the best flight medics in theater. Stay safe.

**Eagle5US** · 08-04-2011, 16:04

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Originally Posted by cback0220

A little non-standard knowledge. If you request a hoist, the PJ's will come. Prolly the best flight medics in theater. Stay safe.

Depends on where you are, they are, and Army MEDEVAC is. Army has more than 300 Hoist missions logged in A-Stan.

cback0220 · 08-04-2011, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Eagle5US

Depends on where you are, they are, and Army MEDEVAC is. Army has more than 300 Hoist missions logged in A-Stan.

Roger, this just came up in SOCMSSC, the PJ's there were telling us if we wanted them to come, to request a hoist. It at least boosts the probability.

**Eagle5US** · 08-04-2011, 17:07

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Originally Posted by cback0220

Roger, this just came up in SOCMSSC, the PJ's there were telling us if we wanted them to come, to request a hoist. It at least boosts the probability.

Hmmm...not too smart a call "just to get a PJ" if a hoist isn't needed. Especially if someone else should happen to need one.

Just sayin...