Leftist legislation from the bench

[rdret1]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/02...est=latestnews

The entire graduating class needs to stand up and say a prayer ending in " in Jesus' name we pray, Amen.", and then see what this idiotic "judge" thinks he can do about it; put the entire graduating class in jail!? I think not!

[uplink5]

Originally Posted by rdret1

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/02...est=latestnews

The entire graduating class needs to stand up and say a prayer ending in " in Jesus' name we pray, Amen.", and then see what this idiotic "judge" thinks he can do about it; put the entire graduating class in jail!? I think not!

Should a student violate the order, school district officials could find themselves in legal trouble. Judge Biery ordered that his ruling be “enforced by incarceration or other sanctions for contempt of Court if not obeyed by District official (sic) and their agents.”

Apparently this judge already thought of this and will instead target school district officials. I agree though, these kids should do it anyway since it is their graduation and their free speech being infringed upon....

[mugwump]

I don't understand how this is legislating from the bench -- separation of church and state. People want to pray in school...go to a private one. I went to a high school where an awful lot of my graduating class didn't pray in Jesus's name.

[rdret1]

Originally Posted by mugwump

I don't understand how this is legislating from the bench -- separation of church and state. People want to pray in school...go to a private one. I went to a high school where an awful lot of my graduating class didn't pray in Jesus's name.

Separation of church and state has been taken way farther than the founding fathers intended it to be. The 1st Amendment reads: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It is pretty simple english, especially the last six words "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Liberal activists have hijacked the 1st Amendment to meet their own needs. I went to school where we said the Pledge of Allegiance and a prayer EVERY morning before the first class started. If you don't believe in God or do not wish to pray; don't. Don't tell me or my children that we can't though, that will just piss me off and make mne do it any way!

[Richard]

The school district should already have a policy in place regarding such activites; it's a simple matter and should have been done long ago.

Although we were a non-denominational private school and had students of many faiths, we had an Invocation and Benediction for Baccalaureate and Graduation - asking people to "Please stand for the Invocation" or "Please stand for the Benediction" (not to "pray") - the Invocation and Benediction were humanistically neutral passages from the Bible (chosen by the event's coordinator and me), philosophically relevant to the celebration, and read by a member of the Student Council - there were no references to any "deity", no "amen", and we never had any issues with it.

I think the oft-cited "Founding Fathers" would be pleased with our interpretation of their "intent" in regards to the practice of religious freedom for all.

And so it goes...

Richard

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by Richard

passages from the Bible (chosen by the event's coordinator and me),

Did your fingers burn when you thumbed through the pages?

Sorry couldn't resist.

[incarcerated]

Originally Posted by mugwump

I don't understand how this is legislating from the bench -- separation of church and state.

The separation of church and state was also legislated from the bench.
This has been the Left’s primary method of advancing its social and political agendas in modern times. The Left understands that power is attained by codifying its values into law.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by incarcerated

The separation of church and state was also legislated from the bench.
This has been the Left’s primary method of advancing its social and political agendas in modern times. The Left understands that power is attained by codifying its values into law.

Excellent post. I concur completely.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by incarcerated

The separation of church and state was also legislated from the bench.
This has been the Left’s primary method of advancing its social and political agendas in modern times. The Left understands that power is attained by codifying its values into law.

I disagree - the concept of the separation of church and state was legislated with the adoption of Art Vl of the Constitution of the United States and further cemented with the adoption of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (Bill of Rights) - and I would hardly call the "Founding Fathers" "the Left"...although some in Parliament might.

Richard

[sinjefe]

Richard, Richard, Richard. Sounds like you have a bit of a leftist tinge to you yourself.....or an atheist one. Must be that teacher background

Originally Posted by mugwump

I don't understand how this is legislating from the bench -- separation of church and state. People want to pray in school...go to a private one. I went to a high school where an awful lot of my graduating class didn't pray in Jesus's name.

You need to read and UNDERSTAND the Constitution. There is nothing there about separation of church and state, it only implies that the U.S. Government will not have a "State Religion" and be a Theocracy. This is clearly an infringement on their rights to free speech. Free speech to a liberal means you can burn the US Flag but you cannot pray? The Supreme Court can interpret the Constitution but I don't think that a Circuit Court Judge has any business legistlating from the bench as this buffoon clearly is.