Mubarak resigns, hands power to military

[Pete]

Mubarak resigns, hands power to military

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_egypt

"CAIRO – Egypt exploded with joy, tears, and relief after President Hosni Mubarak resigned as president, forced out by 18 days of mass protests that culminated in huge marches Friday on his presidential palaces and state television. The military took power after protesters called for it to intervene and oust their leader of three decades............."

So the Military will handle the transition it appears.

[Pete]

Report: Council to suspend Parliament, fire Cabinet

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...t-fire-cabinet

Middle East channel Al Arabiya reports that the Higher Military Council, which has taken control from Hosni Mubarak, will fire Mubarak's Cabinet, suspend both houses of Parliament and rule with the head of the supreme constitutional court.

Reuters is quoting a military source as saying Defense Minister Mohamed Hussein Tantawi will be the head of the ruling military council.

The moves come after Vice President Omar Suleiman's announced Mubarak's resignation. Here's the full text of his remarks, as translated by MSNBC TV:

In the name of Allah the merciful, the compassionate

Dear citizens,

Amid these difficult circumstances the country is going through, president Muhammad Hosni Mubarak has decided to step down from presidency, he has delegated the supreme council of the armed forces to take charge of the country's affairs

May Allah be our guide and our help.

[MtnGoat]

If this plays out to be true; I think a lot more AP nations will be worried and cracking down on internet network sites and usage. Arab Nations will afraid of their own people conducting mass protests with huge marches in protest of their countries current leadership(s).

[The Reaper]

Unanticipated 2nd and 3rd order effects coming.

Stand by for interesting times.

TR

[echoes]

Heard Gen. Boykin say on Foxnews this morning, that this was going to be just like Iran in 1979. He guessed that the Muslim Brotherhood was going to take power, and this is a very bad sign for Isreal.

Holly

[Dozer523]

The Egyptian Military has shown remarkable restraint. Hell our damn tankers won't let US Infantry climb aboard (remember the M-60 series "grunt rails"?).
When my team got to work with them (1989) at Campbell and near Cairo I was struck by the 'of the people-ness' common to the Soldiers and junior Officers. Witnessed very little eliteness, but had a very short view range. At least there weren't any minor princes running around like with the Jordanians.

Any comments on the top of the pyramid?

The military coming to power is just following Egyptian history... after all when many Egyptians are uniting in the streets under a common flag and proclaiming their devotion to their country and not their religion, it will (in my opinion) bring about another leader such as Nasser.

And to comment on MTNGoat's post, I agree completely. I think this morning the first thing they said was Iran shut down certain media outlets and was already attempting to restrict the flow of news within the country.

[lindy]

Originally Posted by MtnGoat

If this plays out to be true; I think a lot more AP nations will be worried and cracking down on internet network sites and usage. Arab Nations will afraid of their own people conducting mass protests with huge marches in protest of their countries current leadership(s).

Why just the AP countries? I would argue that some of the FSU nations are concerned...oh wait...they don't have the internet.

Nevermind.

Seriously though, I wonder what the USG contingency is for a low intensity "uprising" here? I don't believe Egypt-style event could happen here but what about large scale protests fueled by an economic event?

"They can have my iPhone when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!" There's an app for that!

[incarcerated]

Originally Posted by lindy

Seriously though, I wonder what the USG contingency is for a low intensity "uprising" here?

I believe the plan is to rely heavily on CNN and MSNBC to provide wall-to-wall coverage with positive spin, explaining how, at long last, deep grievances have risen above the repression in an outpouring of free expression and true democracy, as the impoverished protestors’ cries for justice are finally heard by a sympathetic world. Administration officials will call for change. After several weeks of this, the White House will lend its full support to the protestors, enhancing the Administration’s outreach to them and hailing them as non-violent champions of freedom and human rights. We will be told that the wheel of history is turning at a blinding pace, that the people’s hunger for change has finally been fed, that this is the way that real democracy works, and that protest is the power of human dignity and can never be denied. It will be a great day for all mankind.
And Stephen Harper will be called upon to step down.

[Pete]

As I said in another post - this issue will play out over the next few years. There are some key points to watch.

The first being who writes the new constitution and what it says - what rights are protected. Does it tilt secular and protect everyone or does it tilt towards Sharia?

The second would be the election itself. What parties get a number of seats and which coalition is formed. Again tilted to Sharia or secular.

The next two would not be noticed by the MSM but are also key. The first is change in Military leadership. A couple of links around here went to stories about how big the Military industrial complex is in Egypt - and how the leadership is ridiculed at the lower officer levels. I think if the government moves against the military leadership they can count on the lower level officers keeping the troops out of it. Hey, take out enough leadership and your chances of promotion are better.

The second are the Coptic Christians in Egypt. If a more Sharia based government takes over look for attacks against them to increase. There are a lot of Christians in Egypt. Where would they go? Who would take them in?

The next couple of years will see a twitch of news here and a twitch of news there. We'll see who notices and adds 2 plus 2 and gets 4.

[lindy]

Originally Posted by incarcerated

I believe the plan is to rely heavily on CNN and MSNBC to provide wall-to-wall coverage with positive spin, explaining how, at long last, deep grievances have risen above the repression in an outpouring of free expression and true democracy, as the impoverished protestors’ cries for justice are finally heard by a sympathetic world. Administration officials will call for change. After several weeks of this, the White House will lend its full support to the protestors, enhancing the Administration’s outreach to them and hailing them as non-violent champions of freedom and human rights. We will be told that the wheel of history is turning at a blinding pace, that the people’s hunger for change has finally been fed, that this is the way that real democracy works, and that protest is the power of human dignity and can never be denied. It will be a great day for all mankind.
And Stephen Harper will be called upon to step down.

Substitute Harper for Yelstin and I'm pretty sure I already saw that coverage on Itar-TASS back in Aug 1991. It's a sad day when folks realize that "independent" media is really State-sponsored.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by lindy

I don't believe Egypt-style event could happen here but what about large scale protests fueled by an economic event?

2008, One sided journalism, Rock Star promotion and the election of the unknown Barrack Obama by teary eyed worshippers. The Tea Party. The numbers are there, the people can be manipulated when prompted.

Then you need some kindling......greedy banks, stolen pensions, lost jobs, lost dreams, unemployment, sending jobs overseas, economy in shambles, lying politicians, etc, etc. Roll it all up in a tight ball..

And then a spark to set it ablaze.


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Maybe it already happened here..........

[Paslode]

"Biggest mistake now is to give the Egyptian people too little too slow. Restoring confidence requires a faster pace," Wael Ghonim said on Twitter.

That is the same kind of GOOGLE-FU helped Hank Paulsen pull off TARP, and Pelosi, Reid and the Administration performed on the American People after the 2008 election......gotta do it NOW, RIGHT NOW.....before people wake up

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/...pt=T1&iref=BN1