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Old 01-25-2011, 20:07   #1
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Mubarak flees to London (initial report, unconfirmed)

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An Italian news publication has just announced that Gamal Mubarak, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak's son who is widely tipped as his successor, has fled to London with his family, Arabic website Akhbar al-Arab said on Tuesday, January 24, 2011.

Gamal Mubarak is seen as Hosni Mubarak's successor. The report is unconfirmed, but goes on to say that the family and 97 pieces of luggage on board left for London on Tuesday from an airport in western Cairo.

The day has seen a revolutionary uprising of Egyptians against the regime of Hosni Mubarak asking for his resignation. Police and protesters clashed, and an anti-riot police officer was killed in Central Cairo.

Taking part in the protest were supporters of former UN nuclear watchdog chief Mohammed El Baradei, the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, the opposition al-Ghad party, the al-Wafd party and supporters of the '6 April' movement.

Mubarak has shown little tolerance for protests in the past.
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Old 01-25-2011, 21:10   #2
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Wow... this should be... interesting.

If Mubarak's government collapses it's a good thing for the cause of freedom, but (likely) bad for the foreign policy of the US.
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Old 01-25-2011, 21:18   #3
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I would be very concerned that a collapse of the current Egyptian government, would be similar to the fall of the Shah of Iran.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:31   #4
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On January 13th during the Tunisian coup, anti-government demonstrators orchestrated false reports that the Foreign Minister had resigned. May be more of the same here regarding Mubarak. If this report proves accurate, it will dramatically alter Israel’s security situation.
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:00   #5
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Shift in U.S. Policy?

U.S., in shift, bluntly urges Mubarak to reform now

By Arshad Mohammed

WASHINGTON | Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:35pm EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States bluntly urged Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak on Wednesday to make political reforms in the face of protesters demanding his ouster, marking a pivot in its stance toward a key Arab ally.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton delivered the message at a news conference with the foreign minister of Jordan, another Arab country that watched the ouster of Tunisia's president in a popular revolt two weeks ago.

Police in Cairo fought with thousands of Egyptians who defied a government ban on Wednesday to protest against Mubarak's 30-year-old rule, firing tear gas at the crowds and dragging away demonstrators.

The revolt in Tunisia has prompted questions about the stability of other Arab governments and initially dragged down equity, bond and foreign exchange prices in parts of the region, notably Egypt.

Tunisia's veteran strongman Zine al-Abedine Ben Ali was swept from power on January 14 after weeks of protests.

Clinton minced no words, suggesting Egypt's government had to act now if it wanted to avert a similar outcome and urging it not to crack down on peaceful protests or disrupt the social networking sites that help organize and accelerate them.

"We believe strongly that the Egyptian government has an important opportunity at this moment in time to implement political, economic and social reforms to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people," Clinton said in a statement with Jordan's Nasser Judeh at her side.

"We urge the Egyptian authorities not to prevent peaceful protests or block communications including on social media sites," Clinton told reporters in the most blunt comments to date by the United States urging Mubarak to undertake reforms.

GENUINE CHANGE

Robert Danin of the Council on Foreign Relations think tank said Clinton's remarks for the first time appeared to make clear what the United States wants to see in Egypt: genuine change that originates from the government rather than a dramatic overthrow as occurred in Tunisia.

As the first Arab state to make peace with Israel, Egypt has much greater strategic importance to the United States than Tunisia. Egypt has long received major U.S. aid and supported Washington's efforts to promote a wider Arab-Israeli peace.

"This is not a walking away from the alliance with Egypt in any way but, at the same time, putting the Egyptian government on notice that changes are going to have to come pretty quickly," Danin said.

"It is trying to lay out a way there can be managed change if the regime is responsive to the people," he said. "It (the Obama administration) doesn't want to see the means adopted in Tunisia -- which would necessitate the leadership to flee."

The White House took a similar stance, making clear that it was monitoring events closely and that it fully supported the Egyptian people's right to peacefully protest.

"We are supportive of the universal rights of assembly (and) speech. ... We would stress quite clearly for all involved that expressions should be free from violence," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters aboard Air Force One.

"This is an important time for the government to demonstrate its responsibilities to the people of Egypt in recognizing those universal rights," Gibbs said.

(Additional reporting by Ross Colvin and Andrew Quinn; Editing by Will Dunham)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70P71O20110126
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:28   #6
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Old 01-30-2011, 23:47   #7
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Good For Freedom?

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Wow... this should be... interesting.

If Mubarak's government collapses it's a good thing for the cause of freedom, but (likely) bad for the foreign policy of the US.
I have a hard time even imagining the Muslim Brotherhood and pals will grant freedom.
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Old 01-31-2011, 00:45   #8
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I have a hard time even imagining the Muslim Brotherhood and pals will grant freedom.
Perhaps not, and two years ago I would have thought that they were the only ones organized enough in Egyptian politics to replace Mubarak. Now however, it looks like ElBaradei is positioned to lead the opposition. While the MB will undoubtedly emerge stronger from the turmoil, they seem to be willing to play ball in the framework of an open society for now. Keep in mind that the Egyptian army is still the most powerful faction in the country and it is extremely unlikely to allow whole-sale rule by the Brotherhood.


Speaking of the Egyptian Army, this is an interesting article about the role of Arab armies in these uprisings.

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