Teach a man to fish so he may eat for the rest of his life.

[Decoy_Octopus]

A man comes to a fisherman because he and his family are hungry. He sees the fisherman eating some very tasty fish and asks "How did you catch those fish? They are so fast I can never catch them. Could you please spare some fish Sir? The fisherman says "I will spare you some fish and come and see me tomorrow and I will teach you how to catch fish." The man thanks the fisherman, goes home and shares the fish with his family. He even returned the next day and learns how to catch fish for himself. The man and the fisherman become friends.


- Let's analyze this story. The fisherman shares his fish with the man, teaches him how fish for himself and they become buddies. VERY UNWISE. To the man the fisherman is of much worth. the fisherman has food and knowledge of how to get food. The man has none. Now the man has food and knowledge of how to get food. What value is the fisherman to the man now? The only thing of value between them is friendship. Which is not of much value at all. If it were to come down to which family is going to eat that night because the supply of fish is low. How long will the friendship last. Now we have to men with equal power. Here is my philosophy on this parable.-


A man comes to a fisherman because he and his family are hungry. He sees the fisherman eating some very tasty fish and asks "How did you catch those fish? They are so fast I can never catch them." The fisherman sees the value in this man and decides to make an investment. The fisherman says "These fish are indeed very difficult to catch. I get up early in the morning and and stay out on the sea a long time. Here take some for you and your family." "thank your sir you are very generous."

The next day the man comes back and asks the fisherman for more fish. The fisherman says "If you want more of my fish you will have to do something for me. Every evening when I comes to shore I want you to clean my boat and fishing equipment. Once this is done to my standard I will give you three pieces of fish." The man agrees and promptly started to clean the fisherman's boat.

-This is much better. The fisherman is superior and has more power than this man. Why would the fisherman give away power by teaching the man how to fish? The fisherman simply catches the fish for the man in exchange for his labor. This keeps the superior fisherman in a position of power and the man in a state of dependence. The man has to depend on the fisherman to eat. So the man will want to stay in the fisherman's good graces and he is far less likely to betray the fisherman. So don't teach a the man to fish. Catch the fish for him then sell it to him for a hefty price.-


That was some philosophia de Decoy_Octopus, 21st century philosopher.

[1stindoor]

You're not going to travel too far in your career. It might possibly be with an SF tab...but I doubt it with that attitude.

Maintain your feeling of superiority...it masks your insecurity quite well.

[Decoy_Octopus]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

You're not going to travel too far in your career. It might possibly be with an SF tab...but I doubt it with that attitude.

Maintain your feeling of superiority...it masks your insecurity quite well.

Pardon me Sir but this is about security rather than superiority.

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by Decoy_Octopus

Pardon me Sir but this is about security rather than superiority.

What are you scared of? What security are you worrying about? Eventually, old age will come, the body will weaken, and unable to feed himself, or train a successor, the entire village will suffer.

[x SF med]

Interdependence and training your successor are much more powerful than the despotism you espouse. I believe you need to read a little more philosophy in order to understand the fallacy you spouted - almost directly from Machiavelli (The Prince) and Marx/Englels (Dictatorship of the Proletariat). Maybe you should be also reading some of Aaron Bank's essays, some Nick Rowe, maybe Jefferson, Kant, and John Stuart Mill....

Think about it.

[1stindoor]

And another thing...because now I'm irritated...what about this post of yours?

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...8&postcount=17

That wasn't even 30 days ago.

[Decoy_Octopus]

Originally Posted by x SF med

Interdependence and training your successor are much more powerful than the despotism you espouse. I believe you need to read a little more philosophy in order to understand the fallacy you spouted - almost directly from Machiavelli (The Prince) and Marx/Englels (Dictatorship of the Proletariat). Maybe you should be also reading some of Aaron Bank's essays, some Nick Rowe, maybe Jefferson, Kant, and John Stuart Mill....

Think about it.

As a successor I would choose a competent member of the family or a loyal member of the town. Not some strange beggar I just met.

[Decoy_Octopus]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

What are you scared of? What security are you worrying about? Eventually, old age will come, the body will weaken, and unable to feed himself, or train a successor, the entire village will suffer.

Ingratitude. When people realize that they don't need you anymore, they forget what you did to help them. You may have their faint friendship but you don't have their loyalty. On the contrary when they depend on you have their loyalty.

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by Decoy_Octopus

Ingratitude. When people realize that they don't need you anymore, they forget what you did to help them. You may have their faint friendship but you don't have their loyalty. On the contrary when they depend on you have their loyalty.

I'll stick with my original statement.

Originally Posted by ME

You're not going to travel too far in your career. It might possibly be with an SF tab...but I doubt it with that attitude.

Maintain your feeling of superiority...it masks your insecurity quite well.

I'll enjoy watching your progress in Feb 2011.

Originally Posted by Decoy_Octopus

Pardon me Sir but this is about security rather than superiority.

Let me use a different course, let's talk about money. It's a subject all are interested in, it provides comforts, aids the needy, feeds the hungry, etc.

"To live through an impossible situation, you don't need the reflexes of a Grand Prix driver, the muscles of a Hercules, the mind of an Einstein. You simply need to know what to do." --Anthony Greenbank

"It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that they are difficult." --Seneca

"The world is not to be put in order; the world is order, incarnate. It is for us to harmonize with this order." --Henry Miller

"If we do not know what port we're steering for, no wind is favorable." --Seneca

"There is a science of getting rich, and it is an exact science, like algebra or arithmetic. There are certain laws which govern the process of acquiring riches, and once these laws are learned and obeyed by anyone, that person will get rich with mathematical certainty." --Wallace D. Wattles

"The reality of life is that your perceptions - right or wrong - influence everything else you do. When you get a proper perspective of your perceptions, you may be surprised how many other things fall into place." --Roger Birkman

"Our life is what our thoughts make it." --Marcus Aelius Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), Roman emperor and Stoic philosopher.

"What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step." --Antoine De Saint-Exupery

"Vision is not enough unless combined with venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps unless we also step up the stairs." --Vance Havner

"Nothing comes from doing nothing." --William Shakespeare

"To your subconscious mind the solutions to your problems of poverty is to become rich, but it is logically invalid for it to pursue this course of action if it has been told that it will make you a bad person." --Simon Hall

"To be ambitious for wealth and yet expecting to be poor; to be always doubting your ability to get what you long for, is like trying to reach east by traveling west. There is no philosophy which will help man to succeed when he is always doubting his ability to do so, and thus attracting failure." --Charles Bandouin


Another view of money, is a man who held onto a small pile of loose coin so tight, he risked not picking up loose dollars. Money is attracted to me, it flows to others by me, it is held loosly in my hands for my family and friends to obtain. My business partners always made money when doing business with me, I am free from the need for more money, yet it continues to arrive daily.

Please explain that? And explain it not in terms of money, but friendship, love, kindness, brotherhood and devotion to ideas and intent that elevate us to higher playing fields.

[1stindoor]

I suspect our young padawan is trying to back out of the limelight.

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

I suspect our young padawan is trying to back out of the limelight.

I want to change your user name from 1stindoor, to "Boot in Ass" - SGM

[1stindoor]

Let me help...because that's what we do. I, and I think most of us that carry the QP tag, politely disagree with your thought process. But by all means please continue your philosophical rants when the mood strikes...it's cheap entertainment for me.

[Decoy_Octopus]

Originally Posted by wet dog

Let me use a different course, let's talk about money. It's a subject all are interested in, it provides comforts, aids the needy, feeds the hungry, etc.

"To live through an impossible situation, you don't need the reflexes of a Grand Prix driver, the muscles of a Hercules, the mind of an Einstein. You simply need to know what to do." --Anthony Greenbank

"It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that they are difficult." --Seneca

"The world is not to be put in order; the world is order, incarnate. It is for us to harmonize with this order." --Henry Miller

"If we do not know what port we're steering for, no wind is favorable." --Seneca

"There is a science of getting rich, and it is an exact science, like algebra or arithmetic. There are certain laws which govern the process of acquiring riches, and once these laws are learned and obeyed by anyone, that person will get rich with mathematical certainty." --Wallace D. Wattles

"The reality of life is that your perceptions - right or wrong - influence everything else you do. When you get a proper perspective of your perceptions, you may be surprised how many other things fall into place." --Roger Birkman

"Our life is what our thoughts make it." --Marcus Aelius Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), Roman emperor and Stoic philosopher.

"What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step." --Antoine De Saint-Exupery

"Vision is not enough unless combined with venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps unless we also step up the stairs." --Vance Havner

"Nothing comes from doing nothing." --William Shakespeare

"To your subconscious mind the solutions to your problems of poverty is to become rich, but it is logically invalid for it to pursue this course of action if it has been told that it will make you a bad person." --Simon Hall

"To be ambitious for wealth and yet expecting to be poor; to be always doubting your ability to get what you long for, is like trying to reach east by traveling west. There is no philosophy which will help man to succeed when he is always doubting his ability to do so, and thus attracting failure." --Charles Bandouin


Another view of money, is a man who held onto a small pile of loose coin so tight, he risked not picking up loose dollars. Money is attracted to me, it flows to others by me, it is held loosly in my hands for my family and friends to obtain. My business partners always made money when doing business with me, I am free from the need for more money, yet it continues to arrive daily.

Please explain that? And explain it not in terms of money, but friendship, love, kindness, brotherhood and devotion to ideas and intent that elevate us to a higher playing fields.

If I had just taught the man how to fish I wouldn't have any money. Would I?

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by Decoy_Octopus

If I had just taught the man how to fish I wouldn't have any money. Would I?

No...no you wouldn't...and sadly you've failed to grasp the analogy. Keep this in mind after Feb, you are always being tested, you are always being evaluated, your education will never end. Good luck to you in Selection.