10-08-2010, 11:06
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Americans' Views Of God Shape Attitudes On Key Issues
I read this article yesterday and found it to be an interesting perspective to ponder.
Richard
Americans' Views Of God Shape Attitudes On Key Issues
USAToday, 7 Oct 2010
If you pray to God, to whom — or what — are you praying?
When you sing God Bless America, whose blessing are you seeking?
In the USA, God — or the idea of a God — permeates daily life. Our views of God have been fundamental to the nation's past, help explain many of the conflicts in our society and worldwide, and could offer a hint of what the future holds. Is God by our side, or beyond the stars? Wrathful or forgiving? Judging us every moment, someday or never?
Surveys say about nine out of 10 Americans believe in God, but the way we picture that God reveals our attitudes on economics, justice, social morality, war, natural disasters, science, politics, love and more, say Paul Froese and Christopher Bader, sociologists at Baylor University in Waco, Texas.
Their new book, America's Four Gods: What We Say About God — And What That Says About Us, examines our diverse visions of the Almighty and why they matter.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/religio...god07_CV_N.htm
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10-08-2010, 16:30
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Their new book, America's Four Gods: What We Say About God — And What That Says About Us, examines our diverse visions of the Almighty and why they matter.
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Very interesting. But there's two places where I'd differ:
In the article, they're mixing God (the being) with religion (the institutions). Second, I'd say they're using "vision" where they should say "version."
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10-08-2010, 18:04
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Personally, I think they broke it down too far. There are times when God can be any of the four they listed. It is not that easy.
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10-11-2010, 09:09
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I agree with rd. God is all of those and so much more (imo). One cannot put a label on God so easily. Why do we have to have a label for Him?
My vision of God encompasses a little of each of those categories; however, it is my FAITH that gives me my relationship with Him.
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10-11-2010, 15:10
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One cannot put a label on God so easily. Why do we have to have a label for Him?
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I find this statement ironic. Referring to God as "him" also labels God. I've always been of the "God is" mindset; that is, God is neither male nor female, but neither and both at the same time.
MOO, YMMV.
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10-11-2010, 16:15
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Tricky, ain't it?
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10-12-2010, 12:21
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I find this statement ironic. Referring to God as "him" also labels God. I've always been of the "God is" mindset; that is, God is neither male nor female, but neither and both at the same time.
MOO, YMMV.
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Considering that is how He is referred to in the Bible, I see nothing ironic at all.
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