10-01-2010, 13:03
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I am intrigued.
Wonder what ammo/component price/availability is, and would like to see more testing.
30 cal out of an AR with nothing but a barrel swap? I'm so there, although $495 for a 9" barrel does seem kinda pricey to me.
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10-01-2010, 13:13
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Originally Posted by DJ Urbanovsky
I am intrigued.
Wonder what ammo/component price/availability is, and would like to see more testing.
30 cal out of an AR with nothing but a barrel swap? I'm so there, although $495 for a 9" barrel does seem kinda pricey to me.
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MSRP and actual price are two different animals. Since the only difference between a 5.56 gun and the 300 AAC is the barrel it is only a matter of time before quality aftermarket barrels hit the street at a price point well below $495, even faster if Remington actually supports the cartridge unlike the 6.8 SPC. As it is Noveske already makes a barrel chambered in the 300 Fireball and my understanding is the 300 AAC is essentially a SAMMI approved 300 Fireball.
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10-01-2010, 13:53
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SUPERSONIC: 970/821 RPM suppressed/unsuppressed
with 300 BLK ammo using Sierra 155 grain New Palma
MatchKing at 1776 fps.
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Isn't this similar to the 134 year old 30-30 Winchester,,
And as mentioned, the 66 year old 7.62x39 Russian??
So far, I am not impressed..
If the future of CQB warfare is planned for a battle field in a closet,,
why not use the 44 mag in a 4 inch barrel??
AT least the 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 SPC are a little better at "reach out and touch someone"..
Who is the congressman or senator pushing this??
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10-01-2010, 15:17
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Based one the links I posted and further reading on silencertalk.com it seems like the main purpose of this round was its impressive subsonic db levels, along with it being ballistically similar to 7.62x39, without the problems associated with adapting that round to the ar-15 platform.
Essentially I think this was to make a relatively quiet round that will work in the standard ar-15/m4 platform and still be a decent performer out of a short barrel. (I think they percieve the advantage is in adopting the whole package including their silencer, rather than just the round itself)
Agree though it seems that they just made .300 whisper a standard cartridge along with the ability to adapt it to this platform in the easiest way possible.
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10-01-2010, 15:23
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Agree though it seems that they just made .300 whisper a standard cartridge along with the ability to adapt it to this platform in the easiest way possible.
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Ding ding ding!
Sounds to me like they took JD's idea and are trying to go mainstream with it.
The .300 Whisper is a good round, and you do not need the 7.62x51 case capacity if you are going to be using subsonic rounds.
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07-27-2017, 04:16
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Originally Posted by fng13
Based one the links I posted and further reading on silencertalk.com it seems like the main purpose of this round was its impressive subsonic db levels, along with it being ballistically similar to 7.62x39, without the problems associated with adapting that round to the ar-15 platform.
Essentially I think this was to make a relatively quiet round that will work in the standard ar-15/m4 platform and still be a decent performer out of a short barrel. (I think they percieve the advantage is in adopting the whole package including their silencer, rather than just the round itself)
Agree though it seems that they just made .300 whisper a standard cartridge along with the ability to adapt it to this platform in the easiest way possible.
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https://www.shootingillustrated.com/..._campaign=0717
More comparison to murky the water 
If you're not reloading, not stuck in AR platform, and not into psssshhhhh, you want to hunt with 7.62x39, Billy. Hornady SST and cheap Russian 8m3 comes to mind.
I must admit though that $499 Palmetto in .300 blackout is something special
Out of the box and smoother shooting, which is irrelevant in hunting shooting pace context
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