09-13-2010, 06:47
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British Teen Banned From U.S. for Life
Apparently, entering the country illegally, killing American citizens while driving drunk, etc., is not one of the 60 reasons.
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British Teen Banned From U.S. for Life After Sending Obscene E-Mail to Obama
Published September 13, 2010 | NewsCore
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A British teenager who sent an e-mail to the White House calling President Obama a "pr*ck" was banned from the U.S. for life, The Sun reported Monday.
The FBI asked local cops to tell college student Luke Angel, 17, that his drunken insult was "unacceptable."
Angel claims he fired off a single e-mail criticizing the U.S. government after seeing a television program about the 9/11 attacks.
He said, "I don't remember exactly what I wrote as I was drunk. But I think I called Barack Obama a pr*ck. It was silly -- the sort of thing you do when you're a teenager and have had a few."
Angel, of Bedford, in central England, said it was "a bit extreme" for the FBI to act.
"The police came and took my picture and told me I was banned from America forever. I don't really care but my parents aren't very happy," he said.
A Bedford Police spokesman confirmed they had spoken to Angel about the e-mail. Officers will take no criminal action.
Joanne Ferreira, of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, said there are about 60 reasons a person can be barred from visiting America.
She said, "We are prohibited from discussing specific cases."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09...est=latestnews
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09-13-2010, 07:19
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I wonder what would happen if I did that? Maybe freedom of speach only applies to certain people.
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09-13-2010, 07:26
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It might be interesting to read the e-mail this kid sent; I'd wager it said more than what he is willing to admit remembering.
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09-13-2010, 10:11
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It might be interesting to read the e-mail this kid sent; I'd wager it said more than what he is willing to admit remembering.
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Yes, the teenager CC'ed me on his email, he also said he had a copy of Mr. Obama's birth certificate indicating he was American born, and Obama's college application in which he stated he was a foreigner, Kenyan, student and should be allowed entry into the American college based solely on his Kenyan foreign student status.
I'd keep him out also.
I highly doubt the email said much more or the "Secret Service" would have happily said this teenager made threats...... thus ensuring their job security.
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09-13-2010, 10:46
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I think this breaking-news is a bit trumped-up. Without a court order, what are they doing to do?? Put the kid on the "do not fly" terrorist list??
Cursing POTUS is a national pass-time in Europe. You could include just about every PM from the UK, France, & Germany in the last 40 yrs on the "Band for Life" list..
And add the last 1/2 doz Popes...
Me thinks the SUN needed a little circulation help this week, other than page three(3)..   
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-for-life.html
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09-13-2010, 15:07
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I use three different e-mail accoutns. Gmail, yahoo and one from my ISP. All three retain copies of outgoing e-mail. Drunk or not if this kid if this kid is telling the truth than all he has to do is look at his outgoing box and provide a copy of e-mail. It is fairly evident that this administration has a very thin skin but I doubt this kid found himself on the permanent persona non grata list for calling the President a prick.
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09-13-2010, 21:39
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
I think this breaking-news is a bit trumped-up. Without a court order, what are they doing to do?? Put the kid on the "do not fly" terrorist list??
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It doesn't require a court order or a "no fly" listing to deny someone a visa.
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09-13-2010, 07:38
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I wonder what would happen if I did that?
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09-13-2010, 08:46
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"It might be interesting to read the e-mail this kid sent; I'd wager it said more than what he is willing to admit remembering."
Me too, Richard- I would imagine that death, bomb and other noteworthy words were mentioned...
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09-13-2010, 10:04
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Maybe 17 year olds should not be drunk posting.
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09-13-2010, 23:05
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LMAO!
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Maybe 17 year olds should not be drunk posting.
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Stay safe.
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09-16-2010, 12:07
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Maybe 17 year olds should not be drunk posting.
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Maybe 17 year olds should not be drinking.
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09-15-2010, 19:27
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I wonder what would happen if I did that? Maybe freedom of speach only applies to certain people.
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NY Daily News said the language was threatening. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. He was free to send it and now he can enjoy the consequences. You send a threatening email to anyone you can be in trouble.
If I was king, a threat to the POTUS would be an automatic monkey stomping. No matter who it is.
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09-16-2010, 05:55
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If I was king, a threat to the POTUS would be an automatic monkey stomping. No matter who it is.
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NDD you are just so swave & de-boner... 
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