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Old 08-27-2010, 06:59   #1
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'How Muslims Are Treated in America'

A 2008 video produced by an ABC News hidden camera team, called "How Muslims Are Treated in America." Setting aside concerns about the morality of such "hidden camera" journalism, which some critics say tricks and emotionally manipulates innocent people, it provides a brief window into American attitudes towards Islam.

An interesting 7 minute video.

And so it goes...

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'How Muslims Are Treated in America'
TheAtlanticWire, 26 Aug 2010

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opini...n-America-4834
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:16   #2
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This video was talked about.....

This video was talked about in another thread.

Getting old Richard?
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:23   #3
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I loved the military dads response @ 03:10 - 03:45. I’d like to think I would have done the same thing, and afterwords, invite her to sit down and talk about Islam. I love picking peoples brains.
I had a discussion with a female from Saudi a while back who jumped at the chance to discuss her beliefs with a non-Muslim, it was an interesting learning experience…
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:34   #4
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This video was talked about in another thread.

Getting old Richard?
I ran this search stream 'How Muslims Are Treated in America' and got no response for either threads or posts.

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Old 08-27-2010, 07:51   #5
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Ah, the silent seething underbelly of America; what did Mick Jagger sing, ..”We’re just a shot away”
Ah, the Stones ….Someone ought to make a video with numerous photos of the victims of honor killing, like that Iraqi girl stoned to death, superimposed as the tune Gimme Shelter plays…if I knew how, I would
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:03   #6
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It might also be illuminating to see the results if Mr. Quiñones used the same methods (hidden camera) in sections of Dearborn, Michigan.

IIRC we had a lively thread in 2009 about "controversial" filming at an Arab Festival.

MOO, I suspect that no "group" has a monopoly on prejudice ....but we'll never see that video from Mr. Quiñones.
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Old 08-27-2010, 20:27   #7
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It might also be illuminating to see the results if Mr. Quiñones used the same methods (hidden camera) in sections of Dearborn, Michigan.

IIRC we had a lively thread in 2009 about "controversial" filming at an Arab Festival.

MOO, I suspect that no "group" has a monopoly on prejudice ....but we'll never see that video from Mr. Quiñones.
It would be nice to see John Q do a enlightening piece on 'How Muslims treat America'. But like you said, we'll never see it......they aren't on the MIAC report.
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Old 08-27-2010, 19:50   #8
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Ah, the Stones ….Someone ought to make a video with numerous photos of the victims of honor killing, like that Iraqi girl stoned to death, superimposed as the tune Gimme Shelter plays…if I knew how, I would
Yeah ....but ya know TRock..."Sympathy for the Devil" comes to mind, as well!
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:40   #9
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Back in the "Ruth" thread?

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I ran this search stream 'How Muslims Are Treated in America' and got no response for either threads or posts.

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Might have been posted back in the "Ruth" thread or somewhere similar. The link was posted into a thread after a few pages of comments and then some comments were made on it.
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Old 08-27-2010, 14:18   #10
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Interesting times...

Though the facts are still coming, It seems that NYC taxi driver, and the Mosque in Queens might have strong opinions...
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Ah, the silent seething underbelly of America; what did Mick Jagger sing, ..”We’re just a shot away”
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The Damn Stones?

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Ah, the silent seething underbelly of America; what did Mick Jagger sing, ..”We’re just a shot away”

Hell, the bastard was hooked on heroin. He was looking for a damn fix.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:46   #13
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You think I want a person wearing a mask in my store?
I didn't see anybody wearing a mask in the video.

Based on what I've seen and experienced, I thought the video gave a fairly accurate idea of what is probably a typical encounter today - 1/6 supported the clerk's behavior, 2/6 supported the girl, and 3/6 said nothing.

The location where the program was filmed lies along the East of I-35 about 1/2 way between Dallas-Fort Worth and Austin in the town of West, TX. I've passed by the place many times while driving to San Marcos and back to visit my sons at Texas State University.

And so it goes...

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Well call it what ya want.

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I didn't see anybody wearing a mask in the video.

Based on what I've seen and experienced, I thought the video gave a fairly accurate idea of what is probably a typical encounter today - 1/6 supported the clerk's behavior, 2/6 supported the girl, and 3/6 said nothing.

The location where the program was filmed lies along the East of I-35 about 1/2 way between Dallas-Fort Worth and Austin in the town of West, TX. I've passed by the place many times while driving to San Marcos and back to visit my sons at Texas State University.

And so it goes...

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Old 08-30-2010, 22:32   #15
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Same song - Different Verse - or is it?

Back when I was a High School Kid - in Fort Worth, Texas – we happily lived in our little bubble of caucasian indifference to people who did not look like us – why? Because our school was segregated – we had no blacks and only a few Hispanics. They did not live in our neighborhood and we just didn’t know them – at all.

Then on my first day of school in my Junior Year – a shocking thing happened. A black family drove up parked in front of the School and marched inside – Mom, Dad and their Son. Fifteen minutes later – they came back out and left – we never saw them again.

That was 46 years ago – we have come a long way from that day. I tell my kids that story and they are shocked by it.

Perhaps – in 46 more years – somebody we will look back at parts of this video and will be shocked. Cautiously, I say “Let’s hope so.”
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