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Old 06-13-2010, 13:13   #1
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Goodbye Kyrgyzstan

Looks like I got out of Kyrgyzstan just in time.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06...-dead-wounded/

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Old 06-13-2010, 17:26   #2
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Looks like I got out of Kyrgyzstan just in time.

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I have to believe that the kids at the Manas air base are a little stressed..

TR, Is that place been up-armored or standard wire fence??
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Old 06-13-2010, 17:35   #3
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I have to believe that the kids at the Manas air base are a little stressed..

TR, Is that place been up-armored or standard wire fence??
I don't know, last week, they seemed pretty oblivious.

The base is hardened to some degree, but most of the people there appear to be under the illusion that the location is permissive.

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Old 06-14-2010, 10:02   #4
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I started a new thread about the mineral deposits discovered in Afghanistan. This may cause us to reconsider the importance of the air base. Remember the extent of U.S. military presence in Thailand during the Vietnam War.
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Old 06-14-2010, 16:01   #5
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I don't know, last week, they seemed pretty oblivious.

The base is hardened to some degree, but most of the people there appear to be under the illusion that the location is permissive.

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TR unfortunately I'll bet dollars to pesos they will be under that illusion until a couple of hours/days after the AF Security Forces at Manas start taking fire from some of the folks who don't particularly like us there, and then the leadership will likely ask if they can talk to someone about it or worse yet they'll put together a tiger team made up of support personnel and led by a pilot to figure out how to not get shot at Sucks to have leadership that doesn't understand the first thing about warfare when the two way range goes hot.

I hope they at least have a Defensive Forces Commander (DFC) with a clue....I fear we'll know sooner rather than later.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:10   #6
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"sunni muslims" fighting again, the religion of peace

For those that are wondering about Kyrgyzstan and the Uzbek's, they're "sunni muslims" killing and slaying the hell out of each other.

I'm sure soon the "world" will ask the USA to stop the killing...

the religion of peace = more muslim violence
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:13   #7
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I hope they at least have a Defensive Forces Commander (DFC) with a clue....I fear we'll know sooner rather than later.
go to google map; "Manas Airbase, Chuyskaya, Kyrgyzstan". Follow the runways to the left and down, zoom in. You can see for yourself.
Oh, theres the beer tent (I never got to visit cuz I was in bound, Damn); and the soviet poster shop and the green bean and oh. . . there's the clam-shell I slept in and ahhhhh. . . my favorite porta-potty.
who need strategic recon when you have google earth?
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Old 06-15-2010, 23:50   #8
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...l/7054846.html

UN says violence in Kyrgyzstan was orchestrated

By YURAS KARMANAU and SERGEI GRITS Associated Press Writers
June 15, 2010, 4:41PM
OSH, Kyrgyzstan — The U.N. has found evidence of bloody intent behind the chaos in Kyrgyzstan that killed hundreds, left the nation's second-biggest city a smoldering ruin and sent more than 100,000 ethnic Uzbeks fleeing.

The declaration by the U.N. that the fighting was "orchestrated, targeted and well-planned" — set off by organized groups of gunmen in ski masks — bolsters government claims that hired attackers marauded through Osh, shooting at both Kyrgyz and Uzbeks to inflame old tensions....

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said the fighting appeared to be "orchestrated, targeted and well-planned," and she urged authorities to act before it spread.

Pillay's spokesman, Rupert Colville, told reporters in Geneva on Tuesday there was evidence the violence began with five simultaneous attacks last week by men wearing ski masks.

Kyrgyzstan's deputy security chief, Kubat Baibolov, said people close to Bakiyev's family hired gunmen from neighboring Tajikistan, who drove around Osh in cars with tinted windows opening fire on both Uzbeks and Kyrgyz to inflame tensions. Some of the suspected gunmen have been detained and told authorities they were hired by Bakiyev supporters to start the deadly rampages, he said.

From self-imposed exile in Belarus, Bakiyev has denied any ties to the violence, but Otunbayeva insisted Tuesday his supporters had stoked the conflict.

"Many instigators have been detained and they are giving evidence on Bakiyev's involvement in the events. No one has doubts that he is involved," she said.

The region around Osh, a city of 250,000, is a top conduit for heroin flowing out of Afghanistan, and thus a hotbed for gangs and guns. Some observers said the violence could have been rooted in the fight for control over drug trafficking.

Mars Sariyev, a Bishkek-based analyst, said figures from Bakiyev's entourage might have encouraged the ethnic violence in order to regain control over the drug flow.

Bakiyev's regime faced widespread allegations of corruption and his family members grew wealthy and powerful while he was president from 2005 until his ouster in April.

Bakiyev's younger son, Maxim, was arrested Monday in Britain, Kyrgyz security chief Kenishbek Duishebayev said. Prosecutors allege that companies Maxim Bakiyev owned avoided almost $80 million in taxes on aviation fuel sold to suppliers of the U.S. air base near the capital of Bishkek....
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