03-28-2010, 15:45
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Obama surprise trip to Afghanistan
Obama Thanks U.S. Troops for Sacrifice as Force in Afghanistan Grows
FOXNews.com
President Obama told U.S. troops in Afghanistan Sunday that America did not ask to be at war there, but he has ratched up the fight to make sure the Taliban and Al Qaeda can not experience a resurgence that would threaten U.S. national security.
In a surprise visit to the country, Obama included a visit to Bagram Airfield to thank the troops for their commitment in a terror fight that has now lasted eight and a half years and is witnessing an escalation of nearly 30,000 more U.S. troops to the country to face down increasingly engaged Taliban fighters.
More here:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...t-afghanistan/
As CIC, this must have been one hell of a photo op....  Sorry for any offense, but Our Bravest deserve a harder, stronger, more honest CIC than this sack of shells...and I can only hope that they know there are real Americans who love and support them, for real!!!!!
JMVHO.
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03-28-2010, 16:26
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Concur 100%, Holly. For the life of me, I wish I could like this louse. I can't. I've tried from all sides. I took this oath every 4-years for 24 years and like any oath, you can't take it back: "I will protect and defend the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, and will obey the orders of those appointed over me...(etc, etc)", but this guy sure as hell tests my resolve. IMHO he's not worthy of the company of any of the troops he addressed. Be glad when he's back here campaigning for his lame-assed Socialist ideals.
(Sorry, y'all. I know it doesn't matter. Rant off.)
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03-28-2010, 17:20
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In my career I served under some folks I did not like. I did not like their politics, their style, their leadership....their whatever. President Obama is no exception.
But the troops need to see the CinC and he needs to be with and see the troops. After all, the military is still a cross section of our society.
Imagine what we would say if he never went to see our troops.
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03-28-2010, 18:27
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but Our Bravest deserve a harder, stronger, more honest CIC than this sack of shells.
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I am currently back home in Alabama burying my uncle and I will stop by and see my Dad where he is buried. He was a life long liberal just like me and he served in the Korean War and was decorated for bravery there.
Is it your assumption that people who do not vote like you are unpatriotic and cowardly and do not serve in the military?
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03-28-2010, 18:55
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Is it your assumption that people who do not vote like you are unpatriotic and cowardly and do not serve in the military?
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Hey Bob-looks like you are the only one making an assumption regarding political affiliation.
With the track record of the current administration, Holly's personal opinion regarding this latest "happening" does not appear out of sorts.
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03-29-2010, 05:00
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Obama surprise trip to Afghanistan
They tried to run a Cover and Deception operation for Air Force-1 departure from
Andrews AFB.
Less than five minute's another group I'm associated with had it figured out!! 
BMT
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03-31-2010, 11:45
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Hey Bob-looks like you are the only one making an assumption regarding political affiliation.
With the track record of the current administration, Holly's personal opinion regarding this latest "happening" does not appear out of sorts.
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I,like Eagle,don't see how Holly's personal opinion was out of line as you have taken it ......... 
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03-29-2010, 15:24
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Originally Posted by Buffalobob
I am currently back home in Alabama burying my uncle and I will stop by and see my Dad where he is buried. He was a life long liberal just like me and he served in the Korean War and was decorated for bravery there.
Is it your assumption that people who do not vote like you are unpatriotic and cowardly and do not serve in the military?
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No Sir.
I am not talking political affiliation here, am talking about this President using Our Brave men and women in uniform, for personal political gain...when he does not seem to be genuine to any American concerned about his decision to treat The Constitution like a simple Word Document, that can be edited and changed, and then "saved" for his own personal agenda.
My sincerest appologies, if I caused any offense to you, Sir.
Holly
P.S. Sir, My Uncle, whom I loved more than my little life itself, was a hard-core Democrat. He bravely fought in WWII in the United States Army, and was more precious to me than anyone...He recently passed away, but His memory and life will always be remembered by me, as one of honor, courage, and quiet respect. Can only hope that I live that legacy, and pass it on.
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03-29-2010, 16:18
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I'd wager it was more than a "meet n' greet" photo op - some messages have to be delivered personally when you operate at that level.
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Do think the message was delivered to Karzai or to the U.S. commanders or to both? If you're wagering, what do you think the content was?
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03-31-2010, 12:02
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Originally Posted by Buffalobob
I am currently back home in Alabama burying my uncle and I will stop by and see my Dad where he is buried. He was a life long liberal just like me and he served in the Korean War and was decorated for bravery there.
Is it your assumption that people who do not vote like you are unpatriotic and cowardly and do not serve in the military?
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Thank you for your service. While certainly you prove that there are exceptions to every rule, I believe that there is a fairly strong correlation between political orientation and military service.
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03-31-2010, 12:03
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Thank you for your service. While certainly you prove that there are exceptions to every rule, I believe that there is a fairly strong correlation between political orientation and military service.
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Concur.
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03-31-2010, 12:29
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Thank you for your service. While certainly you prove that there are exceptions to every rule, I believe that there is a fairly strong correlation between political orientation and military service.
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I've often thought about this. I don't know that there's anyway to confirm it.
In bad economic times, is there a correlation? Do enlistments rise regardless of political orientation?
Is initial military service by 18-20 year olds an indicator of political orientation or just continued military service. Obviously as many mature they become more politically aware.
A 1940s Democrat can hardly be compared to a 1990s Democrat. The motivations would be different and the party itself vastly different in those time periods.
Could it be that core values of patriotism and service trump political orientations or vice versa?
I just don't know. A lot of variables.
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