02-12-2010, 08:50
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SF Candidate
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Botach, stay clear!
I searched but didn't find a specific threat on Botach tactical and wish I did before I ordered with them. This company is horrible, they advertise things on their site they don't have, and that aren’t in fact even made, but they will charge your credit card and then just say it's back ordered.
I ordered a pair of narrow Bellevilles from them, they charged my card and then put it on backorder and refused to return my calls. When I finally called Belleville they informed me they didn't even make a narrow in the boot I had ordered from Botach, a dozen calls later and I finally got it changed over a month and a half after the original order.
Same order, I purchased an Eotech 517, wasn't able to take it to the range right away, when I did it was completely jacked up, extremely dim, (couldn't get it any brighter tried new batteries and pushing) had two center dots, one in the center of the circle and a slightly dimmer one up and to the right, and it couldn't be adjusted to get on the paper from 25 meters, shot the dirt up real well but basically the sight was just junk, Botach's response when I emailed them to find out how to get it resolved, oh well sorry about that call Eotech.
I will never do business with this company again and would caution anyone thinking of buying with them to find an alternative source.
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02-12-2010, 08:55
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Botach is widely known as a rip-off on the various internet gun forums.
I had the same experience with them and their too good to be true pricing. CCD charged and nothing delivered. I finally had the CCD company deny the charges.
I am sorry that they got you too.
TR
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02-12-2010, 15:51
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It's probably not cool, because it's kinda too late ... but just throwing it out ... usually when you google a company names, you get a pretty fast idea of what kind of service you might expect.
In the case of botach when you google 'botach tactical fraud' not only you get dozens of forums links were people comments on how shitty their experience was with them, you usually also get the content from other google search aka google suggest. In that case:
Searches related to botach tactical fraud:
complaints botach tactical
botach tactical scam
botach tactical service
botach tactical worst
botach tactical company
botach tactical bad
By comparison with googling a great gear company with similar keywords
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&aqi=&oq=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&aqi=&oq=
Nothing negative ...
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02-12-2010, 16:19
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I ordered some boots from them a couple of years ago at a GREAT price. They arrived in two days and fit great.
So, a few months later, I ordered a lot of FAK perishables to replenish our kits. Every single item was AT LEAST two years past expiration. One item was 5 years out of date. I got no response from e-mail or phone calls.
Pat
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02-12-2010, 16:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by st1650
It's probably not cool, because it's kinda too late ... but just throwing it out ... usually when you google a company names, you get a pretty fast idea of what kind of service you might expect.
In the case of botach when you google 'botach tactical fraud' not only you get dozens of forums links were people comments on how shitty their experience was with them, you usually also get the content from other google search aka google suggest. In that case:
Searches related to botach tactical fraud:
complaints botach tactical
botach tactical scam
botach tactical service
botach tactical worst
botach tactical company
botach tactical bad
By comparison with googling a great gear company with similar keywords
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&aqi=&oq=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&aqi=&oq=
Nothing negative ... |
Yea they had a good sale going on, and I jumped on it rather than doing my research to make sure they weren't dirt bags, bad on me, won't happen again. I just want to make sure no one else here gets scammed.
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02-12-2010, 16:26
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The things one sees when lurking in the hallways...
An irony is that while this company drags its feet on orders and stonewalls customers, someone is quick to show up here and register using the company's name the very same day that Defender968 tells us of his experiences. 
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02-12-2010, 16:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigaba
An irony is that while this company drags its feet on orders and stonewalls customers, someone is quick to show up here and register using the company's name the very same day that Defender968 tells us of his experiences. |
Woah!
Nice find.
BTW I had an excellent experience buying a pair of Belleville boots from vtarmynavy. They had lots of stuff at 50-75% off. I had a pair of 13 leather wide with steel toed for 45$. I'm trying to find the link but it seems they don't have them in closeouts anymore.
Last edited by st1650; 02-12-2010 at 16:34.
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02-13-2010, 21:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigaba
An irony is that while this company drags its feet on orders and stonewalls customers, someone is quick to show up here and register using the company's name the very same day that Defender968 tells us of his experiences. |
There's actually quite a few "industry" people on this website, many are "friends" of Special Forces.
I'm sure the last thing anyone wants is a bad name with us, cause it only rolls down hill from here. I'm sure Dan is here to "explain" what the "problem" is at Botach.
I don't have any idea who Dan is but I'll go and "waive" Dan's 72 hour waiting period so he can post. Dan if you're reading this, ensure you read our rules before posting on this website. (Your first post goes in the intro forum.)
TS
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02-15-2010, 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
Botach is widely known as a rip-off on the various internet gun forums.
I had the same experience with them and their too good to be true pricing. CCD charged and nothing delivered. I finally had the CCD company deny the charges.
I am sorry that they got you too.
TR
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My pet peeve with most tactical companies. I don't know how they continue to get away with taking peoples money for items they advertise for sale, but don't have. Thumbs up for Grey Group. Only charged me when the items were shipped. Also let me know ASAP if an item wasn't in stock.
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02-15-2010, 21:43
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Roger!
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
Thumbs up for Grey Group. Only charged me when the items were shipped. Also let me know ASAP if an item wasn't in stock.
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