02-01-2010, 07:45
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02-01-2010, 07:53
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Well, there never have been that many guys in Special Forces, but the world is filled with Green Berets...
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02-01-2010, 08:11
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They're everywhere - here's a chart and some pics to help you identify them. 
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02-01-2010, 12:04
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Impostors are every where!  My Dad told me that after the WW2 war(he was a combat medic in the pacific) that wherever he went after the war there must have been a 100,000 guys that claimed they were on the first wave that hit Omaha beach...........  Same thing about that many claiming to have been on the first wave hitting the beach at Iwo Jima......... 
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SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
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02-01-2010, 12:39
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Originally Posted by lksteve
Well, there never have been that many guys in Special Forces, but the world is filled with Green Berets...
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Yup, I met one a few years ago. Guy looked like 350lbs of chewed bubblegum and was sporting a "RANGER" tee-shirt. I asked him what battalion he was in he answered "1st Battalion". He asked me what unit I served in and I said 5th Gp and a few other places, he then said he was also in 5th Gp, I said "oh yeah, what ODA?" His answer,
"1st Platoon ODA"
If I was not laughing as hard as I was after that answer I would have killed him.
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02-04-2010, 17:13
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Yup, I met one a few years ago. Guy looked like 350lbs of chewed bubblegum and was sporting a "RANGER" tee-shirt. I asked him what battalion he was in he answered "1st Battalion". He asked me what unit I served in and I said 5th Gp and a few other places, he then said he was also in 5th Gp, I said "oh yeah, what ODA?" His answer,
"1st Platoon ODA"
If I was not laughing as hard as I was after that answer I would have killed him.
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Gee whiz TS,you've just shamed me for looking into getting myself a 5x "Special Forces" tee-shirt............. 
Big Teddy
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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02-01-2010, 12:39
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I do not do this, but I'm curious none-the-less.
Do you differentiate between those who wear SF items (belt buckles for example) to pass as SF and those who may wear SF items so that when asked, can express respect but not membership?
This question occurs because of the popularity of "awareness" rubber wrist bands. I do wear a health related one of those, but I earned it . I hope I am doing a service regarding awareness by stimulating conversation of an often undiagnosed problem.
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02-01-2010, 12:47
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I do not do this, but I'm curious none-the-less.
Do you differentiate between those who wear SF items (belt buckles for example) to pass as SF and those who may wear SF items so that when asked, can express respect but not membership?
This question occurs because of the popularity of "awareness" rubber wrist bands. I do wear a health related one of those, but I earned it . I hope I am doing a service regarding awareness by stimulating conversation of an often undiagnosed problem. |
Those that wear Special Forces items that are "not" related to a Special Forces soldier probably watch Richard Simmons work out videos and listen to Barry Manilow records. 
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02-01-2010, 12:58
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Those that wear Special Forces items that are "not" related to a Special Forces soldier probably watch Richard Simmons work out videos and listen to Barry Manilow records. |
Damn, now I have to clean ice tea from my shirt, laptop keyboard and screen and my pants. Sure is a good thing I work at home.
I feel better, because I don't do that stuff either. 
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02-01-2010, 13:07
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Those that wear Special Forces items that are "not" related to a Special Forces soldier probably watch Richard Simmons work out videos and listen to Barry Manilow records. |
I heard Richard Simmons tabbed on his second patrol at Ranger School and was a USMA grad. As for Barry I think he IS a Seal.
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02-01-2010, 13:37
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I heard Richard Simmons tabbed on his second patrol at Ranger School and was a USMA grad. As for Barry I think he IS a Seal.
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Richard Simmons was on the the same team as Mr. Rogers
He's killed more men than smallpox.
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02-01-2010, 17:53
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The Military Officer's Association monthly pub carried a five page article entitled " Decorated in Shame". I found it interesting that actor Brian M. Dennehy, of Silvarado fame, was included as having been convicted for falsely claiming Vietnam service.
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02-02-2010, 19:26
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Doesn't surprise me a bit, hell I met one today....claimed to be from seal who was in Panama, Grenada, Desert Storm 1, OEFx2 and OIF, and a wait for it...... a CMOH recipient, who happened to be down on his luck i.e. homeless asking for a hand out. I asked him what unit he was with, and he said seal team 2, then went on to say he received The Medal for carrying two buddies out of danger, one on each shoulder again wait for it...... during Panama, I then gave him the stink eye and said dripping in sarcasm, really I wasn't aware there were any MOHs awarded during Panama...he moved along pretty quickly after that, posers are everywhere.
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02-02-2010, 19:41
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Doesn't surprise me a bit, hell I met one today....claimed to be from seal who was in Panama, Grenada, Desert Storm 1, OEFx2 and OIF, and a wait for it...... a CMOH recipient, who happened to be down on his luck i.e. homeless asking for a hand out. I asked him what unit he was with, and he said seal team 2, then went on to say he received The Medal for carrying two buddies out of danger, one on each shoulder again wait for it...... during Panama, I then gave him the stink eye and said dripping in sarcasm, really I wasn't aware there were any MOHs awarded during Panama...he moved along pretty quickly after that, posers are everywhere.
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Full disclosure: My wife works for a local non-profit agency whose mission "ICAN Housing Solutions helps persons with psychiatric disabilities obtain housing in order to live independently and advance in their personal recovery. The agency's goal is to develop permanent supportive housing for persons with mental disabilities to end their homelessness."
It turns out that many homeless are that way because of psychiatric difficulties. You may want to cut such a person some slack. I do not put him in the same category of a recently outed police officer.
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02-02-2010, 19:48
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Originally Posted by HowardCohodas
Full disclosure: My wife works for a local non-profit agency whose mission "ICAN Housing Solutions helps persons with psychiatric disabilities obtain housing in order to live independently and advance in their personal recovery. The agency's goal is to develop permanent supportive housing for persons with mental disabilities to end their homelessness."
It turns out that many homeless are that way because of psychiatric difficulties. You may want to cut such a person some slack. I do not put him in the same category of a recently outed police officer.
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I understand, but I also know how to question people and gauge their responses from my time as an LEO, this guy knew he was full of it, and I've got nothing for a liar and a fraud, especially one claiming the CMOH.
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