A great piece of propaganda

rubberneck · 01-18-2010, 15:18

When I say propaganda I don't mean it in a negative way. I think it represents the feelings of a lot of people in the country regardless of political belief in an effective way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZs8k4pJcyk&sns=em

lksteve · 01-18-2010, 16:30

I agree...very well crafted.

Dozer523 · 01-18-2010, 19:44

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I agree...very well crafted.

I'm strugglin' here. . . especially the graph of the surplus v deficit.
How exactly does a graph from 1980 to present (that shows the only surplus years as having been under Clinton) support this argument?

I want to believe.

Chris Cram · 01-18-2010, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Dozer523

I'm strugglin' here. . . especially the graph of the surplus v deficit.
How exactly does a graph from 1980 to present (that shows the only surplus years as having been under Clinton) support this argument?

I want to believe.

Early 80's... Recovery from Carter.
Early 90's... First Gulf War?
97,98,99.... Smoke and mirrors. The Illusions of .COM and the waste of Y2k.
00... the market reacts to the 600 billion spent on Y2K and the billions lost on .COM... you can't spend this much green, and produces nothing and not have the market take another dive.
01.. The Begining of another war...

Notice that the magnatude of the 2009 deficit is more than 3 times the max deficit of the past 20 years.

lksteve · 01-18-2010, 20:50

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Early 80's... Recovery from Carter.

Nope...recovery from the Vietnam era and serious inflation...President Carter inherited double digit inflation from President Ford...I recall some serious inflation under Ford, but no cost of living adjustment was made to military pay because we were going to Whip Inflation Now...didn't happen...it worsened during the Carter years, but to say his four year term was the cause of the deficit in the 80s would be somewhat incorrect...

Chris Cram · 01-18-2010, 21:22

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Nope...recovery from the Vietnam era and serious inflation...President Carter inherited double digit inflation from President Ford...I recall some serious inflation under Ford, but no cost of living adjustment was made to military pay because we were going to Whip Inflation Now...didn't happen...it worsened during the Carter years, but to say his four year term was the cause of the deficit in the 80s would be somewhat incorrect...

Sir I yield to you on that one. It was my impression that Reagan had to spend more to rebuild the military... On a tangent, do you remember some payrole issues in 77 & 78? I was on the young side in those days, and I just assumed that sometimes you didn't get paid in October when you were in the Army...

If my three years had been with Reagan rather than Carter, I may have stayed in and navigated down your path. Such is life.

lksteve · 01-18-2010, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Dozer523

I'm strugglin' here. . . especially the graph of the surplus v deficit.
How exactly does a graph from 1980 to present (that shows the only surplus years as having been under Clinton) support this argument?

I want to believe.

We've run a deficit since 1960, with the exception of the latter years of the Clinton presidency, when a Republican congress kept him under control...and as mentioned earlier, the rate at which the deficit exploded under Obama is one of the key messages of the piece..,

dadof18x'er · 01-23-2010, 10:00

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Originally Posted by rubberneck

When I say propaganda I don't mean it in a negative way. I think it represents the feelings of a lot of people in the country regardless of political belief in an effective way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZs8k4pJcyk&sns=em

Its interesting how some of these videos get play time.....its still buzzing around the blogosphere, it must be resonating with alot of folks especially in light of what a few thousand votes did tuesday. Maybe a sleeping giant could be waking

steel71 · 01-26-2010, 20:32

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Originally Posted by rubberneck

When I say propaganda I don't mean it in a negative way. I think it represents the feelings of a lot of people in the country regardless of political belief in an effective way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZs8k4pJcyk&sns=em

Just call it "public relations"..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0OrT-8gXMs