01-12-2010, 13:49
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Tobacco(cigarettes) usage in SF
Hello all,
I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..
Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units? I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.
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01-12-2010, 13:57
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Tobacco
I seem to remember that a lot of the guys used to dip snuff or chew tobacco. It was easier to use in that form when one was operating around aircraft or munitions. Versus a burning cigarette, smokeless tobacco doesn't give ones position away at night in a tactical enviroment. Chewing tobacco is also easier to use than cigarettes during inclimate weather.
I don't use nor advocate the use of tobacco products.
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01-12-2010, 14:17
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I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I
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SOF, regardless of the branch, requires more desire than just a motivation to remain a non-smoker...it is a lifestyle of commitment, not a crutch...
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01-12-2010, 15:14
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Personally - I never smoked nor chewed tobacco products - both dull the senses and place you and your team at risk. MOO and YMMV.
Richard's $.02
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01-12-2010, 15:51
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Thank you all for your replies so far. I greatly appreciate it.
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01-12-2010, 16:01
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Hello all,
I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..
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It's always good to get the first one out of the way as soon as possible, Darn there are people who have been here for years (with hundreds of posts) and not a single thread to their credit.
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Originally Posted by Ecclesiastes
Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units?
I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit.
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No idea about the first part, but congratulations on the second part. As for motivation how about the living a little longer and better?
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I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers.
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I thought you wanted to quit. I'm not sure looking like an "operator" with a stogie hanging from the side of your mouth is going to be motivational. For real motivation why not put all the money saved toward something nice . . . say a weapon?
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Originally Posted by Ecclesiastes
I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now.
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So looks like a little negative motivation is in order. Try this every time you touch a cig or dip (dip is worse) do push-ups until you collapse.
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Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.
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Huh? Rules violation? Nah . . . not you. Your welcome.
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01-12-2010, 16:39
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I enjoyed many a good cigar after a mission, sometimes while sitting in the CSM's office, coffee with a little Jameson was always a nice touch, or was it, Jameson with a small touch of coffee, I can't remember.
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01-12-2010, 19:55
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Originally Posted by wet dog
I enjoyed many a good cigar after a mission, sometimes while sitting in the CSM's office, coffee with a little Jameson was always a nice touch, or was it, Jameson with a small touch of coffee, I can't remember.
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I never smoked, but the motivation for most decisions is usually within, not external. Now to prove myself wrong, I read Jameson's (Thanks Wet Dog!) and I am stuck on having a glass of Jameson's Gold -- not with coffee but some hot tea and lemon with a clove in it.
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01-12-2010, 20:08
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I am stuck on having a glass of Jameson's Gold -- not with coffee but some hot tea and lemon with a clove in it.

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Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.
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01-12-2010, 20:32
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You want motivation to quit?
My dad smoked Marlboros all throughout his service and most of his life.
He's now 6 ft under in Arlington.
Your call.
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01-12-2010, 21:01
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Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.
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When I was a little guy with a bad cough. My grandmother would bring in two small glasses. One with hot lemon juice and honey, the other, a shot of Jameson. My grandfather would say, "now take the two drinks your grandma gave ya, one in each hand son, throw the lemon juice and honey over your left shoulder, the one in your right hand down ye throat".
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01-13-2010, 12:41
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tea or water no honey needed if it is Jameson's Gold
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Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.
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As a child, had this with water , regular Jameson's and honey. Working in Ireland (Galway), the locals promptly corrected (trained) me. Add a bit of tea -- it is considered medicinal and switch to Jameson's Gold (known for honey/oak like taste). It was the drink for a cold, rainy evening at the pub on the off Guinness night. And after the 4th or 5th, you truly did not notice the cold and spirits were high.
Buck, you are on your own for your clock but I guess you knew that already ;-)
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01-12-2010, 18:24
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I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit.
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This is the only thing I'm qualified to respond to. I quit almost 2 years ago, and haven't wanted a smoke since. All I do is think of the money I save, not to mention the health benefits. Lastly, I never really knew how awful smoke smells on a person, until I quit.  I can now smell smoke from great distances.
Here are my stats, if you want the program to put on your computer PM me. It keeps real time info from your quit date.
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I have been smoke free for 1 Year, 9 Months, 1 Week, 6 Days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds (653 days). I have saved $2,286.42 by not smoking 13,065 cigarettes. I have saved 1 Month, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours and 45 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/30/2008 12:00 PM
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01-12-2010, 18:34
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This is the only thing I'm qualified to respond to. I quit almost 2 years ago, and haven't wanted a smoke since. All I do is think of the money I save, not to mention the health benefits. Lastly, I never really knew how awful smoke smells on a person, until I quit.  I can now smell smoke from great distances.
Here are my stats, if you want the program to put on your computer PM me. It keeps real time info from your quit date.
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That system would also work for those counting down the days, when your youngest is living the house. I thought of a watch that ran backwards, digital timer, for the empty nester crowd.
"We have 4 yrs., 2 months, 6 days, 12 hrs., 8 min., and 33, 32, 31, ... seconds until our youngest is 18, and mom and I are gone".
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01-12-2010, 18:45
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That system would also work for those counting down the days, when your youngest is living the house. I thought of a watch that ran backwards, digital timer, for the empty nester crowd.
"We have 4 yrs., 2 months, 6 days, 12 hrs., 8 min., and 33, 32, 31, ... seconds until our youngest is 18, and mom and I are gone".
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Nice. You could also use something like the online clock showing the seconds ticking away until the next presidential election.
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