Coral Gables PD adopts Le Mas ammo

Coral Gables, FL PD adopts Le Mas ammo according to an article in the July/August issue of American Cop Magazine titled Le Mas Handgun Ammo Rifle-Like firepower by Bob Pilgrim that begins on page 46. According to DocGKR, Bob Pilgrim is the pseudonym of a respected ex-FBI agent that he knows personally.

I've asked DocGKR to get the back-story on the author's observations and how Coral Gables PD came to select this ammo. I know of DocGKR's opinion of this ammo but as an industry professional I am counting on him to report fairly if he does follow through.

[Blitzzz (RIP)]

Originally Posted by HowardCohodas

Coral Gables, FL PD adopts Le Mas ammo according to an article in the July/August issue of American Cop Magazine titled Le Mas Handgun Ammo Rifle-Like firepower by Bob Pilgrim that begins on page 46. According to DocGKR, Bob Pilgrim is the pseudonym of a respected ex-FBI agent that he knows personally.

I've asked DocGKR to get the back-story on the author's observations and how Coral Gables PD came to select this ammo. I know of DocGKR's opinion of this ammo but as an industry professional I am counting on him to report fairly if he does follow through.

May want to read the Rules/instructions, as in waiting 72 hours to start posting. Much less starting your own thread.

[Blitzzz (RIP)]

I don't kmow much on this subject but thought this was interesting.

Using stereomicroscopy comparative analysis and SEM data, AFTE affiliated forensic scientists were able to prove that each of the LeMas rifle loads tested actually used commercially produced conventional rifle bullets: for example, the LeMas 5.56 mm Urban Warfare load is actually a Nosler 40 gr Ballistic Tip #39510, while the LeMas 5.56 mm Land Warfare appears to be a Sierra 45 gr JSP
Varminter #1310. Similarly the LeMas .308 Land Warfare turned out to be a Hornady 110 gr JSP #3010, while the LeMas .308 TFSP is really a Hornady 110 gr VMAX #23010, and the LeMas .308 Urban Warfare is a Nosler 125 gr Ballistic Tip #30125--oh, and the one lead-free LeMas rifle load we tested, the .308 SSSP/HARPPII, turned out to use Barnes Solid 125 gr all brass bullets #30812.
Link to the article.

I don't know what happens to these bullets by the La Mas people before loading. Anybody?

Originally Posted by Blitzzz

I don't know what happens to these bullets by the La Mas people before loading. Anybody?

I believe the article is worth reading. It deals with neither the bullet construction, metallurgy, nor the bizarre marketing by Le Mas, the most frequent criticisms.

It does deal with the fact that a prominent police department has chosen this ammo. And it deals with the observations of a respected ex-FBI agent. This, in my opinion, is worth noting.

[rubberneck]

I want to respect what Doc Roberts does but it is awfully hard to after watching him shill for dragon skin. On the one hand he blasts the guys at LeMas and anyone who speaks positively about them for being snake oil salesmen while getting into bed with a sleazebag like Murray Neal.

His followers heap praise on him for calling B.S. on LeMas's "marketing/hype" but they never want to acknowledge that his "testing" of Dragon Skin helped to slime the reputation of a respected member of this board. That's about all i'll say on the subject as his internet groupee's lose their mind whenever someone has the temerity to refuse to genuflect in his general direction.

[Blitzzz (RIP)]

I think... I'm out in the cold on this one. Hadn't taken a side on any of it, but sounds like I agree with you. Dave

Originally Posted by Blitzzz

May want to read the Rules/instructions, as in waiting 72 hours to start posting. Much less starting your own thread.

I've obviously blotted my copy book. I'm just not sure how. I though I read and understood the rules. Perhaps you would be kind enough to be explicit about your concerns either in a PM or publicly, as you see fit. I aspire to be a good citizen in this community, so your help would be appreciated.

[Blitzzz (RIP)]

I apologize for my misunderstanding of the 72 hour rule, and my overzealous attack on your ststus. You don't need my help here, so welcome to PS.com. Again I apologize for my unnecessary correction. Apparently it's been added automatically in the soft ware, to eliminate the thinking process.

So sleeping in a Holiday Inn doesn't make me a Moderator..

Originally Posted by Blitzzz

I apologize for my misunderstanding of the 72 hour rule

That is very kind. Thank you.

[Ambush Master]

ALL!!

LeMas Ammo has been discussed in here beyond belief!!

#1 Go to the bottom of the Web-Page and select "From the beginning" and you will see all posts in that thread.

#2 For this subject search for either LeMas or Posts by APLP. (He is the owner of the company and a personal friend to several of us!)

Take care.
Martin

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by HowardCohodas

Coral Gables, FL PD adopts Le Mas ammo according to an article in the July/August issue of American Cop Magazine titled Le Mas Handgun Ammo Rifle-Like firepower by Bob Pilgrim that begins on page 46. According to DocGKR, Bob Pilgrim is the pseudonym of a respected ex-FBI agent that he knows personally.

I've asked DocGKR to get the back-story on the author's observations and how Coral Gables PD came to select this ammo. I know of DocGKR's opinion of this ammo but as an industry professional I am counting on him to report fairly if he does follow through.

Welcome Howard,

Here on this forum of Professional Soldiers we don't drink the koolaid of the dentist known as Gary Roberts. Here we have MD.'s real Trauma Surgeons evaluate terminal ballistics, not dentists. We also don't read the National Enquirer for our news. Ever think about that? A dentist evaluating terminal ballistics.

If you do a search on La Mas ammo you'll find enough to keep you reading for quite some time.

Team Sergeant


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