12-05-2008, 23:32
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National parks concealed carry
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12-06-2008, 02:50
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GC,
Thats great news,finally we get a break. However BHO will kill it, I'm afraid once he gets in office. We know his feelings on guns...........
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12-06-2008, 10:17
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Was this an Executive Order that can be rescinded by BHO as soon as he takes office. If so you have to wonder if the Bush Administration is going to pass a few more like this. Forcing BHO to show his true Liberal colors when he takes office. Sounds like something old Carl Rove would do
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12-06-2008, 10:56
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Finally, it's made no sense to not allow law abiding citizens to carry in parks, it just kills me that you have idiots like Bill Wade who clearly haven't got a clue fighting it. I'm sure the only public he is speaking of are his tree hugging no bath taking pinko hippy freaks.
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"Once again, political leaders in the Bush administration have ignored the preferences of the American public by succumbing to political pressure, in this case generated by the National Rifle Association," said Bill Wade, president of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees.
"This regulation will put visitors, employees and precious resources of the National Park System at risk. We will do everything possible to overturn it and return to a commonsense approach to guns in national parks that has been working for decades,"
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I do agree that B0 will likely overturn this immediately upon being sworn in, though I do hope Pres Bush puts a few more pro 2nd amendment presidential orders out, so the rest of the country who hasn't been paying attention will have tangible proof that B0 is anti 2nd amendment.
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12-06-2008, 11:49
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That is nice to know, because there are a group of people that live in the Osceola National Park here in Florida, and like to wreck havoc every once in awhile on people visting the park.
I never understood the reasoning for not allowing a person to carry in a park. You are far from help from any kind of attack, be it two legged or four legged.
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12-06-2008, 12:28
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Was this an Executive Order that can be rescinded by BHO as soon as he takes office. If so you have to wonder if the Bush Administration is going to pass a few more like this. Forcing BHO to show his true Liberal colors when he takes office. Sounds like something old Carl Rove would do 
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I believe it was a "rules change" by the normal method.
Several weeks ago there was an article written by a liberal that bemoaned how difficult it (and others) would be to reverse because of the method by which they were changed.
Hoping the lib was right on that point.
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Here's something that addresses the difficulty in reversing the rules change:
http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/4400/
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Last edited by GratefulCitizen; 12-06-2008 at 12:43.
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12-06-2008, 13:10
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From http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.html
We do have some support in Washington.
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On February 22, 2008, Interior Secretary Kempthorne responded to letters from 51 Senators, both Democrats and Republicans, as well as from the Chairman and Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee, urging him to update existing regulations that prohibit the carrying of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. In his response, the Secretary directed Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty “to develop and propose for public comment by April 30 Federal regulations that will update firearms policies on these lands to reflect existing Federal laws (such as those prohibiting weapons in Federal buildings) and the laws by which the host states govern transporting and carrying of firearms on their analogous public lands.”
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12-07-2008, 10:30
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Carry a sidearm in the national parks out here in the Rockies can definitely mean the difference between life and death. Mountain lions have become a lot bolder around people. Off the top of my head and can think of at least 3 instances here in CO where a child was attacked and killed within eyesight (less than 50m) from the parents. The cats don't just happen along and see something easy to kill. They stalk their quarry and wait for the best chance to strike. People who come to visit Rocky Mtn Ntl Park or Mesa Verde have no idea about the very real threat from wildlife. Granted, this isn't Alaska but folks must remember that when you go out into the high country in CO, you are entering the food chain.
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