Go Back   Professional Soldiers ® > At Ease > The Early Bird

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-24-2008, 08:21   #1
Richard
Quiet Professional
 
Richard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 15,370
Military Looking Abroad for Source of Cyber Attack on Pentagon

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/11/20/pentagon-cyber-siege-unprecedented-attack/

The Pentagon has suffered from a cyber attack so alarming that it has taken the unprecedented step of banning the use of external hardware devices, such as flash drives and DVD's.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/11/21/source-cyber-attack-pentagon-come-china/

The cyber attack on the Department of Defense that has led to a ban on the use of external hardware devices could have come from a number of foreign countries, possibly Russia, though the military is dismissing earlier reports that China was the source of the threat.

Richard's $.02
__________________
“Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)… There are just some kind of men who – who’re so busy worrying about the next world they’ve never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results.” - To Kill A Mockingbird (Atticus Finch)

“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 08:33   #2
SF_BHT
Quiet Professional
 
SF_BHT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sneaking back and forth across the Border
Posts: 6,691
Like I always say "Never let your guard down"

This is not new but it must have been a good one this time. Russia has shown a good capability at this. China is also good at Cyber warefare. We get hits at my office from China and NK on a weekley basis. Keeps the Tech staff working and gives them job security.
SF_BHT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 09:09   #3
Roguish Lawyer
Consigliere
 
Roguish Lawyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
Since when is banning flash drives an "extraordinary" step? There definitely is a trend to do that to prevent IP theft from corporations.
Roguish Lawyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 14:08   #4
JJ_BPK
Quiet Professional
 
JJ_BPK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 18 yrs upstate NY, 30 yrs South Florida, 20 yrs Conch Republic, now chasing G-Kids in NOVA & UK
Posts: 11,901
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer View Post
Since when is banning flash drives an "extraordinary" step? There definitely is a trend to do that to prevent IP theft from corporations.
I'll have to ask my son-in-law. He's at Northrop-Grumman and I thought he told me they have just mandated that ALL TRANSPORTABLE company data be stored on flash drives with mega-encryption.

We were talking, a while back, about his frequent travels and the TSA statement that they can confiscate & copy anything you carry thru an airport for no reason..

Their encryption level renders the flash drive useless to anyone, even if one was to disassemble the stick and attempt to install the mem chip in another system..

That may be the thread with the Pentagon,, They can't tell what is in the flash-drive,, so they ban the use???

In the case of DVDs and JPEG pictures, they have a long history of hidden data and unless you know where to look, it is almost impossible to find.

So,, there is precedence,, geeks have known it for years...

Problem is the physical size of the latest commercial Micro-SD is very very small and can carry 64GB. That is equivalent to my complete system, with 20,000 pictures and movies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroSD

Just read thru the articles,,, The threat was perceived to be somewhere on the GIG,, It could have been any PC connected in the Sand Box or any PC on any US military base or Embassy, in the world...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg SD_Card.jpg (75.4 KB, 19 views)
__________________
Go raibh tú leathuair ar Neamh sula mbeadh a fhios ag an diabhal go bhfuil tú marbh

"May you be a half hour in heaven before the devil knows you’re dead"

Last edited by JJ_BPK; 11-24-2008 at 14:17.
JJ_BPK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 14:24   #5
Longstreet
Guerrilla
 
Longstreet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 334
Real Scary.

A couple of nights ago on the Discovery Channel there was a documentary (sorry I cannot remember the name of the program) about the threats of a cyber attack - viruses in particular - and as mentioned it is feared that such attacks will come from China or Russia.

The documentary mentioned the blackout that the eastern US and Canada had a few years ago and while it was classified as human error, this documentary argued that the power failure was due to a cyber attack.

It is unbelievable just how reliant we are on computers. The show concluded that the next world war will not be fought using bombs or weapons, but will be launched using computers.

As always I took the documentary with a grain of salt, but it was a little unnerving when they filmed a hacker break into a large international bank in about five minutes.
__________________
I’ve come to a frightening conclusion that I am the decisive element in the classroom. It’s my personal approach that creates the climate. It’s my daily mood that makes the weather. As a teacher, I possess a tremendous power to make a child’s life miserable or joyous. I can be a tool of torture or an instrument of inspiration. I can humiliate or heal. In all situations, it is my response that decides whether a crisis will be escalated or de-escalated and a child humanized or dehumanized.
--Haim Ginott--
Longstreet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 06:44   #6
Richard
Quiet Professional
 
Richard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 15,370
Cyber-threat was always an issue in NATO by the anti-war at any cost crowd; at that time it was mostly Dutch cyber-weenies attempting to break our systems.

Richard's $.02
__________________
“Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)… There are just some kind of men who – who’re so busy worrying about the next world they’ve never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results.” - To Kill A Mockingbird (Atticus Finch)

“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 10:02   #7
Kyobanim
Moderator
 
Kyobanim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,045
If they want to get serious they need to eliminate the people working from home. Their reliance on CAC readers to protect their network is absurd when you look at all the people that don't use firewalls on their personal PCs.
__________________
"Are you listening or just waiting to talk?"


Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing."
Optimus Prime
Kyobanim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 10:12   #8
The Reaper
Quiet Professional
 
The Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland
Posts: 24,824
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyobanim View Post
If they want to get serious they need to eliminate the people working from home. Their reliance on CAC readers to protect their network is absurd when you look at all the people that don't use firewalls on their personal PCs.
They also refuse to extend the anti-virus and firewall protection license to retirees and contractors, although they have access to AKO.

TR
__________________
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910

De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
The Reaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 12:58   #9
Razor
Quiet Professional
 
Razor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 4,535
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyobanim View Post
If they want to get serious they need to eliminate the people working from home.
No can do. National Security Presidential Directive 51 and Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20 mandate government agencies (including DoD) to establish, exercise and update Continuity of Operations (COOP) plans, to include social distancing and alternate work location operations.
Razor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 15:27   #10
Kyobanim
Moderator
 
Kyobanim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,045
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor View Post
No can do. National Security Presidential Directive 51 and Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20 mandate government agencies (including DoD) to establish, exercise and update Continuity of Operations (COOP) plans, to include social distancing and alternate work location operations.
Ok, I can understand the need for spreading out or critical resources. I'm talking about the contract companies that have their employees working from home. Programmers, sysadmins, etc., that have access to the network. I know of 2 contractors who had their systems compromised while on CAC. The only repercussions from this was the offending parties had to re-take the IA classes and promise to secure their systems.

Also, the IA reqs say that if you work from home you are supposed to have anti-virus software, working firewall, and a seperate and securable workspace; i.e. secure room. Very seldom, if ever, is this verified.
__________________
"Are you listening or just waiting to talk?"


Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing."
Optimus Prime
Kyobanim is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:00.



Copyright 2004-2022 by Professional Soldiers ®
Site Designed, Maintained, & Hosted by Hilliker Technologies