Another Booo Whooo for Carter...

I just cannot believe that this man would do such a foolish thing. Mugaube is one of the worst dictators ever in history and you have a peace loving, "I'm going to beat my last event at the White House", Carter who thinks he can save the world. Boy this burns me!


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,456424,00.html

[Red Flag 1]

Hard to see any good for anyone where POTUS after Ford is involved. The good he does escapes me.
POTUS after Ford is a nasty and bitter man, that is his legacy!

My $.02.


RF 1

[Dozer523]

Gosh MAB . . . did you read the article before you fired the FPF? Or was it just a case of "Carter-in-the-wire; DEMs in-the-open! Fire for Effect!"?
I qoute . . . "Carter and two other members of The Elders group — former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and rights advocate Graca Machel, who is married to Nelson Mandela — had planned to assess the country's humanitarian needs as Zimbabweans are stalked by disease and hunger while political crisis occupies its politicians. But they were told Friday night by former South African President Thabo Mbeki, who is mediating the political crisis, that efforts to secure travel visas for the group had failed, Carter told reporters at a news conference in Johannesburg. "We are very disappointed that the government of Zimbabwe would not permit us to come in, would not cooperate," Carter said.
It was the first time the 2002 Nobel Peace laureate has been denied permission to carry out a mission in any country, he said. Annan, also at the news conference, said no official reason had been given for the refusal. He said they read about it in Zimbabwe's state-run Herald newspaper, which reported Thursday that the group had been asked to "come at a later date" to accommodate the crop planting season. The article also said, however, that the group was seen as antagonistic toward Zimbabwe's government.
I don't seee a ringing endorsment for Mugabi here.

I thought he was an awful President when I was a Mech Infantryman WALKING all over FRG during his administration. When he left office, I'm sure he felt a great deal of disappointment. He took office in a time when America had heartbreaking doubts about itself (Vietnam, Nixon, Watergate, corporate scandals -- involving MILK!). RF if you want bitterness take a look at Nixon. I believe he has done an outstanding job as an ex-president demonstrating the best intentions of America. Mon-back.

[AF Doc]

Originally Posted by Red Flag 1

POTUS after Ford is a nasty and bitter man, that is his legacy!

Red Flag --

I'm curious why you have this impression. My impressiion is that he is well meaning and trying to be useful. I respect Mr. Carter and haven't heard anything to make me believe he is "nasty." I'm willing to have my mind changed, though.

Don't get me wrong, I think he was one of the worst president's we've ever had. No need to start a list of the disasters during his watch. He was clearly not the right man for the job. I just don't see him as being "bitter."

His presidency is a classic example of the old adage, "The road to hell is paved with good intensions." But hey, without Carter would we have had Reagan?

"Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man." -- Ronald Reagan

(Dozer edged me out, sorry for the redundancy.)

[ZonieDiver]

(Dozer edged me out, sorry for the redundancy.)

Hey, any time we are discussing governmental figures and politicians, especiall those at the national level, redundancy is always appropriate! I hear BHO plans on starting a new cabinet-level department: the Department of Redundancy!

Dozer523,

What I was trying to say is that Mugabe is a dictator and that Carter who thinks that he is some kind of revolutionary speaker gifted to make peace and not war should not be surprised that not everyone wants to speak to nor hear from him. Carter may have been upset that such a country as Zimbabwe should deny him access. Personally, I think that he needs to keep his nose out of the world's crisis areas and just retire permanently before he is seriously considered a traitor to this great country of ours.

You are right about Mugabe. There is none intended. I don't sing the praises of any Dictator like Mugabe who just happens to be an especially bad one. My concern is with Carter who during his reign as POTUS caused us to allow the Russians and Chinese to catch up to us militarly amongst other past incidents as POTUS or not. He had his three strikes out when he went to Iran to talk there. I don't care for either one.

[Red Flag 1]

Nixon was bitter, no question. David Frost gave him a final chance for contrition. Nixon gave us Carter. Ford had little chance after the Watergate event and cover-up.

Carter gave a warm fuzzy look to folks, sitting around the WH in his sweater. He was awful for the military, axed all R&D on balilstic missle programs, killed the B-1 program, used the Olympics as a political weapon, discounted advice from The Shah of Iran on succession in Iran, for starters. Is there any question regarding Carter's support for the PLO? Why would he do that?

While at Vandenberg AFB, I was detailed to Rancho del Cielo many times. I met President Reagan several times. I spent time with Secret Service agents. Agents detailed to the Western Whitehouse were pretty good guys. They had many positive things to say about President Reagan. As for Carter, you will have to find one and ask on your own. I know what I have come to believe about Carter, and how I got there.

Carter did win a Nobel Peace Prize; so did Al Gore!


RF 1

[Pete]

Carter had his fingers in Hugo's reelection.

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by Red Flag 1

Nixon was bitter, no question. David Frost gave him a final chance for contrition. Nixon gave us Carter. Ford had little chance after the Watergate event and cover-up.

Carter gave a warm fuzzy look to folks, sitting around the WH in his sweater. He was awful for the military, axed all R&D on balilstic missle programs, killed the B-1 program, used the Olympics as a political weapon, discounted advice from The Shaw if Iran on succession in Iran, for starters. Is there any question regarding Carter's support for the PLO? Why would he do that?

While at Vandenberg AFB, I was detailed to Rancho del Cielo many times. I met President Reagan several times. I spent time with Secret Service agents. Agents detailed to the Western Whitehouse were pretty good guys. They had many positive things to say about President Reagan. As for Carter, you will have to find one and ask on your own. I know what I have come to believe about Carter, and how I got there.

Carter did win a Nobel Peace Prize; so did Al Gore!


RF 1

Good post RF 1........I agree 100%.

GB TFS